This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. Ron: I mean they had people out here in my woods that night that they were looking for them all over that place, and they couldnt find them. Computers and computer equipment, digital storage devices, tapes, cassettes, cartridges, streaming tape, commercial software and hardware, computer disks, flash drives, disk drives, monitors computer printers, modems tape drives, this application programs data discs system disk operating systems, magnetic media floppy disks, computer software, hardware and software operating manuals, tape systems and hard drive and other computer related operation equipment. In my attempt to go back to square one regarding this crime, I wanted to find out some info on an earlier break-in that was to have occurred on Ron Logan's property. Maybe with so many different marriages, etc., you could have a step-brother whose sister would not be your step sister not sure if that makes sense or is possible. There is a hearing in the case on December 16, 2021. They made the case that a couple of things, the warrant, that could harm the case if released, so we did take it out," Greenlee said. Logan's home was searched as a result of a probation violation. Logan said that with the steep embankments and rough terrain on the back end of his property, it would be difficult to even make it to the location, let alone carry two bodies down and drop them off. The discovery was less than a mile from the spot where missing teens Liberty German and Abigail Williams were last seen. I had wondered, as some redditor's reported, about DE (Anna's step brother) along with his sister and his sister's boyfriend finding the bodies, why they didn't refer to DE's sister as Anna's step sister. Covid aside, Ron Logan, his children, and their family's land and heritage are additional victims of the Delphi killer. Logan has been the focus of attention surrounding the case from day one. Ronald Logan. Ron: But anyway, I lost about everythingpeople came out and stole shit because they knew I was gone. LG and AW were walking the trail in the area of County Road, 300 North and 575 west near latitude 4035 degrees 21.4 degrees, longitude 8638 degrees 23.3 degrees at approximately 2:13pm, which was the time of last contact with LG and AW by cellular device. The video from the transfer station appears to be off by 26 minutes, putting Logan at the transfer station from approximately 11:53am and 11:58am. Its weird how a lot of the rumors and speculation has come true! Someone they knew. Ron: My [plumbing issue?] Records, documents, writings and correspondence containing information about the crime crime scene or any individual involved in the crime. In that meeting, Logan told the LEO that he did not think evidence would lead them to that but said, "I don't know". There are like 17 felonies in those two families combined. We will continue to hold Content Creators responsible for their content. But there's all kinds of people, big time people looking into this. L: Yeah. According to WISH-TV, citing the search warrant, two articles of clothing from one of the girls was missing from the scene, leading authorities to believe they may have been taken as a souvenir. Beginning shortly after 3pm LG's family and other community members joined the search. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Ron: Just concentrated on people that didnt do it, that didn't do anything too much. Privacy Policy. Logan had owned the property where the girls bodies were found for 50 years, according to Fox59. Michelle Keen Pat Brown& David Erskine She talks about the trauma counseling she has been getting since she came up on their bodies.. Do you have a link or something where she is talking about the trauma counseling? -- (WXIN) -- Ron Logan admitted to a Carroll County judge that he violated probation in late February by driving to a county dumpsite on the day two young Delphi girls were found murdered on his land. Full story: abc7.ws/2Xz6kko, New Details Emerge in Unsolved Delphi Murder Case, Theres a new twist in the hunt for the killer of Indiana teenagers Abby Williams and Libby German, who were murdered in 2017. The warrant says it is 43 seconds long. "We can tell you we reached out to law enforcement yesterday. If not, I am somewhat confused about that search group. Ron: Ill be completely over with everything in February. You don't understand. It doesn't look like anyone Ive ever seen, he said. Logan resides approximately 22 miles from the store. On March 6, 2017, during an interview with an LEO, Logan said he was picked up by [Redacted Male One] around 3PM and taken straight to the aquarium store in Lafayette. It seems like the woman was related or a good friend to Becky some how. Anya Cain and Kevin Greenlee, hosts of the true crime podcast Murder Sheet, obtained the search warrant. They also released Snapchat video from Libbys phone of a man walking on a bridge toward the girls before they were killed. "It's quite a nice. The body site was about 800m from the high bridge where Libby had photographed Abby the afternoon before. READ NEXT: Read More About the Delphi Murders, Ronald Logan: Delphi Murders Case Described in Warrant, Copyright 2023 Heavy, Inc. All rights reserved. Ron Logan has owned that piece of land for 53 years and said that the discovery of the girls' bodies on his property is something he still hasn't been able to come to terms with. But when they put up those trails in the middle of nowhere, I said you're gonna have all kinds of drug problems and all kinds of crap from this. [Redacted Male One] tells LEO that he was with Logan on Monday, February 13, 2017. [Redacted Male One] also said that Logan did not ask him to live for Logan when Logan drove to the transfer station earlier in the day. I cant say theres not a threat to the community. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. They spent, they were going to pin it on me. [Redacted Female One] has not had contact with Logan in approximately two years. Also, I feel like he had anything to do with it and knew there were two murdered teenage girls about to be found on his property, he would have tried harder to alibi his time than a quick phone call to his cousin the next morning claiming they were at a store. The February 2017 killings of teens Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in Delphi have drawn international attention. Afterward, while police looked for the young lady's dead body, they found that Ron Logan had proactively been dead. The gruesome discovery was made on Ron Logans 40-acre lot by a neighbor who volunteered to help with the search. Logan owns farmland and cares for large farm animals. DELPHI, Ind. Did you know anyone in their families? Ronald Logan is a defunct farmer who owned the land where two girls named Abigail Williams and Liberty German were murdered near Delphi, Indiana, and a search warrant reveals new details about the crime. Thank you for taking the time to explain things to us and for trying to bring us back to reality. If that was his concern, he would also have needed an alibi for the earlier trip to the transfer station. In the March 6, 2017 interview, Logan said after he was done at the aquarium store, he was driven straight home. The location of the crime scene is approximately 1400 feet from Logan's residence. That's all it is. Ron Logan spoke with reporters on his property days after the girls' bodies were found. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Giving FOX 59 News a look at the crime scene that sits deep in the woods on his private lot. They may have and perhaps still do suspect that he knew more than he told them, but theres a reason he was never charged despite the very bad facts about the false alibi. ._3wvjcIArtO7kKPJabZfZ9S{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;font-weight:400;line-height:16px;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin-right:24px;opacity:0;transition:opacity .1s ease-in-out}._3wvjcIArtO7kKPJabZfZ9S._1c98ixuh4QUWO9ERiFID3p{opacity:1}.RtAsN7UrR7u51W5kaOXvp{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin-left:4px;margin-right:0}._1JRtpiobR4jYtbw-xx1tPO{border:1px solid var(--newRedditTheme-body);margin-left:-7px;transform:scaleX(-1)}._1JRtpiobR4jYtbw-xx1tPO:nth-child(2){margin-top:4px} Update (April 10, 2017): Ron Logan was sentenced to three and a half years in prison. The search resumed the next day and around noon, a searcher spotted the girls' bodies about 15m from the north bank of Deer Creek, on the 12 hectare property of 77-year-old Ron Logan, who was not considered a suspect. LISTEN: Police release audio of Delphi, Ind. Please look at the time stamp on the story to see when it was last updated. My thought is what if RL was guy on the bridge, sees them on his property, goes to run them off and then goes on with his day, only to later find out they are missing and dont get picked up by DG? The teens reportedly lost a considerable amount of blood when they died. Some of the circumstantial evidence against him is intriguing and should absolutely be looked at, Cain told Inside Edition. When they found out there was just too much against them, they gave up. Delphi is a small town of less than 3,000 people and Police Chief Steve Mullin said they've always felt they were safe, but Libby and Abby's murders have changed that. L: Oh, Im sure. Asked his cousin to lie for him for an alibi between 2 and 2:30 on the day of the murders. There was something about LE making him a coffee under the guise of lifting DNA from his cup but it didnt work. The statements he made, or the things he did, like the changes he made to his appearance even if ever so slightly. During her March 8, 2017 interview, [Redacted Female One] told LEOs when she first saw the photograph of the man on the bridge, she thought the police were looking for Logan because she thought the photograph was Logan. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I was a little scared you know because it was just us two. Logan's physical build is consistent with that of the male suspect videoed by LG on the Monan High Bridge Trail. We need to solve this and you're it. This phone call was made prior to LEOs discovery of LG and AW deceased bodies. And I don't think le knew about bg until they recovered Libbys phone and were able to view the video she took. Copyright 2017 Scripps Media, Inc. All rights reserved. A crime blog referencing unsolved criminal cases. I'm free now as far as that goes. The affidavit makes a point of noting that he did not ask for an alibi for that time period. [Redacted Male One] said he thought the photograph of the male that was released by the media of the man on the bridge looked like Logan. Employed others to assist in deceiving law enforcement and plotted an alibi for a crime that had not yet been discovered. I cant imagine hed allow two young girls to be murdered and left on his property so I dont think hes involved. Looking right at them. Its been shared on Reddit multiple times but the original sources channel was deleted. LG and AW are presumed to have made contact with the unknown male at approximately 2:13pm based upon analysis of LG's cell phone, which recorded the video. [Redacted Female Two] also explained that Logan was angry because she disrespected Logan and Logan's home. Ronald Logan, Delphi, Indiana: Man who owned property where girls were found lied about whereabouts. The bodies of Liberty German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, were found on the back end of a private piece of property about half mile from where they were dropped off to go hiking on Monday. does anyone know if anyone in the search party resembles the photo at all ? Affidavit Links Man to Fake Social Media Profile Cops Identified in Delphi Murders, Delphi Murders: Cops Investigating Potential Link to Fake Social Media Account. "To have something like this in your own house, your own home - I just can't get my mind around it yet, it's really difficult," said Logan. The property owner where the bodies of the two missing Delphi girls were found is speaking out as police continue to search for their killer. L: Yeah, we walked the trails a little bit. Really close. Libby also captured audio of his voice saying, Down the hill, according to WRTV. Any and all tablets, phones, iPads devices, and any all other electronic devices which may contain digital data. For more information, please see our Delphi, IN Abbott Funeral Home - Delphi Add Photos 10 Memories Robert R. Mears Robert R. Mears, 70, of rural Chalmers, passed away unexpectedly at his home on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2023, at 4:18. Yep. cant imagine how something like this would happen here because we have had. - The property owner where the bodies of the two missing Delphi girls were found is speaking out as police continue to search for their killer. 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It's been shared on Reddit multiple times but the original source's channel was deleted. Ron: Not the murders. This will draw every deviant in the world to it. As a newly released search warrant reveals new information into Ron Logan, a look back at WTHR's interview with him in 2017. I, Nicole Robertson, am a special agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigation and have been employed as such for 12 years. Women told authorities that Logan had been violent with them in the past, and they believed he was the suspect. For more on Ron Logan, including quotes from an interview conducted just days after the killings, click the link below. Question if you care to answer (or anyone can answer). Somebody had to be walking with them or something, he added.Those are the same kinds of thoughts Marvin Sandifur keeps mulling over. Ron: Now wait a minute you're gonna just look at me say, oh sorry Ron. Ron: Because it's too damn close. Video from the transfer station shows Logan driving his white Ford pickup truck between 11:27am and 11:32am. Its the general notion of taboo that stigmatizes them. They are asking that anyone who recognizes the man in this photo to call the Carroll County Sheriffs Department at 765-564-2413, the Delphi Police Department at 765-564-2345 or the Indiana State Police at 765-567-2125. Ron: You would have to, I don't know how you would get them there. The warrant also declares that Logan's physical build is consistent with the suspect. [Redacted Female One] knew that Logan would carry a gun in a fanny pack. Ron: I thought it was part of the family for a long time. What you said makes sense. Obviously they would have follow up on the lying and then after 2 years went in a new direction when they confirmed it wasnt him. You are going to be just as confused as I was as to how did these two little girls got here from the high bridge with all of this rough terrain without somebody making them come here, said Logan. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. F 250, VIN number [redacted], for evidence related to the murders of LG and AW and diligently searched for the following items: Any and all evidence pertaining to a murder including clothing, forensic evidence, blood seen and unseen hair, bodily fluids seen and unseen fibers, weapons including guns and cutting instruments electronic devices used produced the cellular signals detected by law enforcement in the area of a crime scene, animal hair samples. Police also learned Logan drove a pickup truck to the transfer station in Delphi to drop off trash on Feb. 13, likely between 11:53 a.m. and 11:58 a.m. Perhaps it then was DE who Ron Logan was referring to as his neighbor. But I wonder why did Carter and his crew shift direction with the original older looking guy's composite to a younger looking dude and say they're between 18 - 40yrs ? It's all plugged up with some crapthere is rusty water some of the plumbing in this house is -. Thanks for that input. Because of the nature of the victims wounds it is nearly certain the perpetrator of the crime would have gotten blood on his person/clothing. Unreleased portion of Libby's video is short & does NOT contain additional audio or video of the killer. He said: Monday afternoon, I was in Lafayette Aquarium World getting tropical fish for my aquarium so when I came home one of the neighbors asked for permission to come back here and search for the missing girls and thats the first time I heard anything about it. His ability to manoeuvre over the terrain on his land. Approximately 5:30pm was the last successful ping of the cellular phone by a AT&T. Ron Logan served time in jail for unrelated crimes Credit: Carroll County Sheriff's Office Officials said that Logan, who died in 2020, asked his cousin on the morning of February 14, 2017, to tell police that he picked up Logan at his house that afternoon to take him to an aquarium store about 20 miles away. Logan has lived on the property for 50 years and he believes it would have been a tough area for the girls to hike through. This whole area is beautiful. . Based on the above aforementioned facts, Logan was in the area at the time the crime occurred and that he provided false information about his activities during the crime to law enforcement and has a prior propensity for violence. Images of the suspect have been broadcast on the news media since February 15 2017 as a person of interest. Can LE lie about that ping? He owned the land where the bodies were found. Its the craziest -. 1998 - 2023 Nexstar Media Inc. | All Rights Reserved. So they called up and said, hey there's some clothing down there go check it out. One of the neighbors are these the exact words Logan used? /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/UsersCountIndicator.2ab8dda40f822a31d31c_.css.map*/A suspect has been developed of a white male wearing a blue jacket with a heavy physical build wearing a cap and blue jeans. -The girls were killed with a weapon, lost significant amounts of blood, -Article of clothing was removed from the crime scene. Send you to prison for driving without a driver's license. WISH-TV posted the search warrant in a story that identified Kline as the man authorities say was behind the account. Im of the camp he knew more or assumed more than he told but hes not the actual killer. I mean, you cant get there unless you walk there. Logan would certainly not pass for a 40year old. Ronald Logan is a now deceased farmer who owned the land where two girls named Abigail Williams and Liberty German were murdered near Delphi, Indiana, and a search warrant reveals new details about the crime. All your justice is pure money. You're right, that is all the affadavit sort of proves. This whole document just blew my mind!! For them to get from there to all the way here with that rough territory they had to walk, you couldnt carry them in a million years or drag them or drop them off, said Logan. Also, if what Ron Logan said is true it would support the rumors of the area where the girls were found having been searched previously. Well they got the money out there too. You are ordered to seize such property or any part thereof found on such a search. [Redacted Female One] left Logan after he became physically abusive. It's been known for years that the girls' bodies were found on the property of then 77-year-old Ronald Logan, who is dead. Maybe Im missing something though. That news comes after detectives investigating the Delphi murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German, who were slain in Indiana, asked the public for information on the online profile named anthony_shots. Maybe he panicked thinking he would be implicated but thats how he knew the timeframe of when at the very least, he needed to not be home at 2:00p. Where did they take them? Police are processing the evidence gathered here. [Redacted Female One] told interviewers that Logan had told her in the past that he could kill her and no one would find her body. His daughter used to hike the same trail. Both women told investigators they thought Logan was the man in the video. Im going to take you down here and show you everything on how they could have got here. On February 13 2017, LG's family began searching the area of the trail where LG and AW were initially dropped off. They were . Unless you make them walk there. So, I fooled with my tropical fish the whole time the search was going on Monday night, but then they didnt find them around Tuesday until noon or 1 or whatever it was. Computers and computer equipment, digital storage devices, tapes, cassettes, cartridges, streaming tape, commercial software and hardware, computer disks, flash drives, disk drives, monitors computer printers, modems tape drives this application programs data discs system disk operating systems, magnetic media floppy disks, computer software, hardware and software operating manuals, tape systems and hard drive and other computer related operation equipment. This shows Logan's cell phone appears to be in or around his property on February 13, 2017 at 2:09pm, although his exact location cannot be confirmed. The real looney stuff is easy to filter out with common sense, but the stuff that gets you thinking people will throw away based on a label! You can access our collection of compelling stories at WTHR.com and WTHR +. 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