~ Christine. Hey Babes!I'm back with another True Crime Tuesday case and todays case is about the murder of Muriel Drinkwater also known as the little red riding hood mur. Birth: 16 Jan 1878: I have requested information regarding the cost of the re-investigation of Muriels murder since 2008. He clearly wasn't very bright, and there's evidence that you see of overkill with Muriel Drinkwater's case as well.". He agreed to give a DNA sample that could rule out Muriel's father from the investigation. In the days and weeks that followed, police officers visited every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles, along with interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. I have informed South Wales Police regarding this information to save them a fortune on a wild goose chase trying to extract D.N.A. So with that revelation the re-opened inquiry could have cost 15 million or more as did the Gwent Police inquiry into the disgraced former Abertillery care home owner Dr Dana Pras. SOUTH Wales Police's Specialist Crime Review Unit has been investigating the murder of 12 year-old Muriel Drinkwater whose body was found in Penllergaer Woods, Swansea in 1946. [18] The public can no longer access the Drinkwater files by Freedom of Information Act requests or in person at the archives office in Kew. They had been regular churchgoers, but stopped going to church and moved away from the farm within two years of the murder. "The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Harold Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater," says DCI Mark Lewis, head of the unit. Also, as I understand matters, members of Muriels family have given DNA samples to ascertain whether Muriels father may have killed her. Interesting insights! Twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was a choirgirl who dreamed of being a schoolteacher. profiling cleared Hubert who stated he had long been suspected by some locals of being the murderer and was happy to clear his name.). 'I have spoken to Muriel's family and bring them up to date with the latest details of this investigation. ', Glamorgan Police and men of the 169th Bomb Disposal Unit make a break for a meal during their search for evidence after her murder on June 27, 1946, Jones, originally of Abertillery, South Wales, is a suspect in the killings of six women in London in the 1960s. Some time after speaking to D.S Lloyd-Evans, D.N.A. Muriel was skipping through the woods on the afternoon of June 27, 1946, as she did every day on her way from school, when the summer's afternoon turned to tragedy. There was another murder in 1943. There is no doubt about that.". 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A village-wide search was swiftly underway, and at 4:30PM the following day Muriels body was located in a Japanese larch plantation near her home. I am in regular contact with a niece of Muriel Drinkwater who has told me that members of her family gave South Wales Police samples of their D.N.A.. Swansea 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater, who was shot after being sexually assaulted in 1946, Officers searching the farmland in the days after the murder, Muriel's schoolmates with flowers for her grave, A picture of the gun police believe was used, Harold Jones, a convicted child killer who was also a suspect in Muriel's killing, Ronnie Harries, the last man to be sentenced to death in Carmarthen, The book that was found in a charity shop. Something went wrong, please try again later. Only the exhumation of Jones body or D.N.A. Neil Milkins. Harries bludgeoned two of his relatives to death with a hammer when they wouldn't let him borrow their car. Hi Sherlock. "All historic murder cases, or 'cold cases', are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. I suggest reaching out to a DNA expert and seeing what insight they might be able to provide. South Wales Police some years ago announced that a potential suspect Hubert Hoyles had been cleared of Muriels death through DNA profiling. Request number 772/21. Thank you so much for this detailed update. She had been attacked on the lane and then she was dragged to where the body was left.". Video, 00:01:28The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. Ms Darby says: "He denied killing his relatives at all. to have gone on to kill six women in London in the 1960s - and was dubbed Jack The Stripper. After discussing this development with Muriels niece, myself, Muriels niece and a number of of her nursing friends came to the same conclusion that if Jones daughter isnt his biological daughter then Jones could not completely rule out Jones as a suspect. "South Wales Police has had considerable success with cold case reviews being one of the first forces in the country to set up a review team in 1999 to conduct cold case reviews. Thank you once again and I wish you every success with your forthcoming publication. A brother, nephew, grandson. Dear Sir/Madam. . Find records of Muriel Drinkwater . The case became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder. ADVERTISEMENT BY ANCESTRY.COM. [3] In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest sample . Her route to her family's home Tyle-Du Farm entailed a mile-long journey that wove in and out of the woods. 'All historic murder cases, often referred to in the media as 'cold cases,' are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. We use your sign-up to provide content in the ways you've consented to and improve our understanding of you. [10], Police visited every house within 150 square miles and interviewed 20,000 men in Swansea and in neighbouring Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. with South Wales Police has recently conceded that it CANNOT be categorically stated that Harold Jones has been ruled out completely as Muriels killer. Positive reviews really help others find our show. [6] On 27 June 1946, Muriel took the school bus home from Gowerton Grammar School. Police believed 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater (left) might have been a victim of a notorious serial killer Harold Jones when she was raped and murdered in 1946. A familial DNA profile was extracted using a technique called Y-STR, but no match was found in the national DNA database. It is one of the oldest active cold cases in the United Kingdom. Thank you for all your assistance in this matter, the information you have provided has proved to be very helpful. Although the profile was loaded into the UK National DNA Database, it failed to match any of the approximately five million DNA records held there. Roll on another 2 months for a denied request. The comments below have not been moderated. Police believe 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater might have been a victim of a notorious serial killer when she was raped and murdered in 1946. The team tracked down Harries' cousin Lynn Hughes who described how the only child had been "spoilt" by his parents and was very "childish". The new B.B.C. 4th daughter born to Lilian and Charles Herbert Irvine in Liverpool. D.S. Taking into consideration all of the above information and the decades that have passed since Muriel was killed, I think that the only way this case will be closed is through a familial DNA match. It became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder - but who killed Muriel Drinkwater? 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Brutally beaten, raped and shot twice, the discovery of Swansea schoolgirl Muriel Drinkwater 's body in 1946 horrified an entire community. Hi Neil. As manager of this memorial you can add or update the memorial using the Edit button below. It was believed the victim's clothes had been lost. This was no spur of the moment event. Do not sell or share my personal information. Oftentimes the public wonders why resources should be allocated to cold cases such as Muriels, cases in which most of victims immediate family, and even the perpetrator, are likely dead. However, what happened to Jones once he left Wandsworth jail in December 1941, aged 35, remains a mystery. We are hoping to make a BBC documentary (follow on from Dark Son) to see if we can shed any new light on the case. Swansea 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater, who was shot after being sexually assaulted in 1946 Now, a team of former detectives and crime experts have re-investigated the case, dubbed the 'Little. Then for 3 years he was registered at Colinette Road Putney as Harry Stevens. On 29 August 2021, I sent the following email to Freedom Of Information at South Wales Police. Fifteen days later, Jones murdered 11-year-old neighbour Florence Little too, hiding her body in the attic of his parents' home. Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. Video, 00:02:56Detectives to revisit unsolved murder, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle. Muriel N Drinkwater (born Maker) was born on month day 1903, at birth place, to Thomas L Maker and Margaret L Maker (born Baum). He also fixates on the fact that he is married to a younger woman, that she is five years younger than him, that she started going out with him when she was still in school. Forensic historian Nell Darby found similarities in the case of Muriel Drinkwater and the later Ronnie Harries farmhouse murders in old newspaper articles from the time. Muriel was murdered 16 years before I was born, but it was a story I had heard from a young age. To see documentary google Dark Lands Muriel Drinkwater iplayer. "(The murder) turned our family upside down and has been talked about through the generations. Muriel, who lived on Tyle-Du farm at Penllergaer, near Swansea, went missing on Thursday, June 27th, 1946, and her body was found next day in Penllergaer woods. Hi Christine. Police confirmed a cold case review on the stain found on Muriel's coat in 1946 had now been tested by forensics teams. Police believed 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater might have been a victim of a known serial killer when she was raped and murdered in 1946. 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We are no longer accepting comments on this article. Although the decision was made immediately it took nearly 7 weeks until 16 August 2021 to get a formal decision. Welsh author Neil Milkinsargues that Harold Jones,a convicted murderer who killed two girls in Abertillery in 1921 when he was just 15 years old, was Muriels killer. Just put my name in Facebook bar. Muriels niece Margaret is desperate to get the books back. That DNA was initially used to rule from suspicion someone who had been spotted close to the woods on the afternoon Muriel was attacked. Filmed as part of documentary Dark Land: Hunting the Killers, that is being shown on BBC Wales, the name of murderer Ronnie Harries, the last man to have been hanged in Carmarthen, has been put forward by the team that is headed by the former chief constable of Dyfed Powys Police Jackie Roberts. Thanks again! "Each case is reviewed periodically. Muriel Jean Drinkwater Birth unknown Death 1983 Burial. Thomas was born on July 22 1880, in South Thomaston Knox Maine. Required fields are marked *. There were soldiers still in the area after the war and they used to train in Penllergaer woods. I personally think whoever did it was a true psychopath and he would probably of done something like it before and has done other crimes since. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater (Welsh: Llofruddiaeth Muriel Drinkwater),[2] also known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder, is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. "We realise whoever did this might be dead, but if he is alive and in his 80s or even 90s we would like to see him behind bars," said Muriel's great-niece Claire Phillips, speaking about developments last October. request regarding the unsolved murder of 12 year-old Muriel Drinkwater near Swansea in June 1946. Chief Inspector Bethell aptly explains, Re-opening the case is as much about proving who didnt do it, as who did. Remember that Hoyles was suspected of Muriels murder for decades and lived under a cloud suspicion that followed him everywhere he travelled in his small village. There must be other victims of this person as I cant see him stopping. Thanks for reading and for taking the time to share your thoughts. He stated that I was barking up the wrong tree regarding Harold Jones having killed Muriel and finished by saying Happy Hunting before slamming the phone down on me. I can be contacted at [emailprotected] or via Facebook messenger. We also may change the frequency you receive our emails from us in order to keep you up to date and give you the best relevant information possible. "She lost sight of her for a few moments. Muriel Drinkwater. Nevertheless, local legend tells of how, after leaving prison, he'd return to his parents' house in Abertillery from time to time, where the sound of him playing the organ in their front room would haunt the terraced streets. Hard to work out the logic of your comment Charlotte? If information comes in from the public or other forces we act on it. Brutally beaten, raped and shot twice, the discovery of Swansea schoolgirlMuriel Drinkwater's body in 1946 horrified an entire community. I then appealed that decision and was shocked to be told that the information I requested had been eaten by vermin or had been damaged owing to a leaking roof. Published: 08:03 EST, 1 May 2019 | Updated: 13:00 EST, 1 May 2019. Her route to her familys home Tyle-Du Farmentailed a mile-long journey that wove in and out of the woods. Thanks again and take care. If information comes in from the public or other forces we act on it. Sometime later that afternoon, Muriels mother Margaret glanced out of her kitchen window and noticed Muriel approaching their property from approximately 400 yards away. I am awaiting D.N.A tests to be carried out on Harold Jones family members. It doesnt take much working out who the unnamed source with South Wales Police was! I wonder if there was a sketch done when Hoyles confronted a man weeks earlier. Her mother seen her approaching 400 yards away, so perhaps she was a selected victim. But he was later released and served in World War II before his military career ended in 1946. [9] Detectives from Scotland Yard came to Swansea to assist in the investigation. On 30 March 2010 the Times Online quoted an unnamed police source with South Wales Police as saying: We have a real problem with amateur sleuths in this area. Video, 00:01:00At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble. She was singing . You can Google ones in your area or check out Twitter (but I recommend checking their credentials). For decades, a key person of interest in Muriels murder has been Hubert Hoyles. People had forgotten it was there. Regards. Farm Heroes Saga, the #4 Game on iTunes. The 12-year-old attended Gowerton County This was a very small, close knit community and everybody knew everybody and everybodies business. This true crime happened in Penllegaer Woods on the outskirts of Swansea in 1946. She was beaten, raped and shot twice just yards from her family's isolated farmhouse in 1946. In the programme, former Dyfed Powys chief constable Jackie Roberts travelled to met him and he told her how his grandparents (Muriel's parents) had changed after the murder. There was a camp a mile away in Grovesend. Murder. "I have spoken to Muriel's family and bring them up to date with the latest details of this investigation. Video, 00:00:41, Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. DNA was taken from the relatives of both Muriel and Ronnie Harries but the results have not been made public. Nevertheless, the FBI was called in to assist with determining the ownership of the murder weapon, but nothing seems to have ever transpired from this lead. Despite a number of leads and suspects, police have not been able to identify her killer. However, the BBC documentary Darklands shown in November 2020 identified Ronald Harries who murdered his aunt and uncle as Muriels killer, and a cousin of Harries was shown in the documentary and was expected to give DNA to prove or disprove the theory.. South Wales Police's Specialist Crime Review Unit has today finally ruled out Jones - who died from cancer in 1971 - from their investigation. He could not be placed at the scene, and the DNA ruled him out of the investigation. The True Crime Files is dedicated to all things #TrueCrime. Hi. As always you can unsubscribe at any time. [citation needed], In 2009, Welsh police began reinvestigating any link with the murder of 11-year-old Sheila Martin, who was raped and strangled 250 miles away in Sun Hill Wood, Fawkham Green, Kent, on 7 July 1946, ten days after Drinkwater's murder. The unanswered question, however, is whether or not the killer was specifically waiting for Muriel or if any girl or woman who happened by would have made a suitable target. Sometimes the rumours and suspicion in these unsolved cases does almost as much damage to the community as the crime itself. Elizabeth Muriel Greenshields Drinkwater . I think it was suggested that the police thought that the family knew more than they were letting on. And four months after Jones left the army Muriel was raped and shot dead as she walked home from a school bus in Penllergaer, Swansea. Update: I have left it two weeks for the . MLS breaks attendance records on the opening weekend of the new season as both Charlotte and Atlanta welcome over 67,000 fans - more than the average crowd at 13 NFL teams! GRAPHIC DESCRIPTIONS. Thank you for sharing this detailed update on Muriels case with the community. This will conclude a 10 year wait to see if Jones was indeed Muriels killer. Jones, originally of Abertillery, South Wales, is a suspect in the killings of six women in London in the 1960s. It was believed a similar weapon had been used in the murder of a cinema manager in Bristol. Only by comparing D.N.A. A moment later, Muriels path wound into a thickly wooded area, and her mother returned to her chores in the kitchen. Like you I hope there is justice one day for Muriel but sadly as more and more time passes I worry that becomes less likely. 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Detectives to revisit unsolved murder. I really appreciate how youre helping keep the true crime community informed on whats going on behind the scenes in this frustrating and heartbreaking case. I have spoken to former D.C.I Paul Bethel and given him this information. Updated: August 30, 2013 . Unless he bludgeoned first then he raped, this would have caught her by surprise. Dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', the 12-year-old had been killed amongst the undergrowth at Penllergaer Woods whilst on her way home from school one June afternoon. It was supposed to have been abandoned in 1944 but I know there were GIs who married Swansea girls still around in 1946. It is now more than 70 years since the 12-year-old schoolgirl was brutally raped, battered around the head . Thanks again for sharing this. And we appreciate your dogged determination to get to the bottom of what happened. I live on the land of penllergaer woods and I have some information that I think u would like to hear.. how can I get in contact with u to chat.? More recently, however, it was tested against the DNA of one Harold Jones, a convicted double child murderer who slayed two similarly young girls in Abertillery in the 1920s, to see if he might be the perpetrator. If true, it could have placed him in the area at the time of Muriel's murder. In the days and weeks that followed Muriel's murder, police officers visited every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles, along with interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. Muriel Drinkwater was a young Welsh schoolgirl. With the help from a niece of Muriel Drinkwater I pursued my research which led to South Wales Police taking a D.N.A. Thank you Christine. We know 100% that it is the killer's stain. Or was she just in the wrong place at the wrong time? In 2007 whilst researching for my 2008 True Crime book Every Mothers Nightmare Abertillery in Mourning, which dealt with the murders of two Abertillery school-girls in 1921, I received a surprise visit from Victor Penaluna, a cousin of the second Abertillery victim Florence Little aged 11. She was still wearing her school uniform. He can't understand why people would think he killed them. taken from Jones exhumed body can the police honestly say catergorically that Jones was or was not Muriels killer. Muriel Drinkwater murder: Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? 12 year old Muriel Drinkwater had only a mile to travel from the South Wales village of Penllergaer to the farm she lived on with her family. Detective Chief Inspector Mark Lewis, head of the Specialist Crime Review Unit said: 'The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. In mid 2007, I had extensive contact with Detective Constable Paul Rogers of the London Metropolitan Police. And police now hope a stain on Muriel's coat will. In 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was murdered in the woods of Swansea, Wales. I was able to edit the comment for you before it went live. The Photo Request has been fulfilled. The savage nature of the attack stands out from other rapes. "Due to advances in forensic technology we have been able to look again at evidence from the murder in 1946 and I am now able to rule him out completely as a suspect in this case. There are, of course, other theories regarding who was lying in wait on that fateful day. Wales documentary screened at 10.30pm on Sunday 8 November 2020 spent a full 5 minutes suggesting that 2 books found in a Carmarthen bookshop recently had been taken from Muriels schoolbag in 1946 as trophies by the killer. Read about our approach to external linking. "And we know, even though it had been 60 years since it went into storage, that it is hers. Muriel Drinkwater lived on a farm known at Tyle-Du at Penllergaer and attended Penllergaer Grammar School. [8][4] Policemen from Glamorgan, assisted by the 169th Bomb Disposal Unit, used a metal detector to search for a second weapon suspected to have been used, but never located it. However in 1965 he was registered as Harry Stevens in Putney AND at the same time he rented a property in Aldensley Road Hammersmith and was also registered but using the name Harry Jones. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater ,[2] also known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder, is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. All Rights Reserved. Video, 00:02:36, Up Next. Norah Irene Bartlett. She disappeared around the bend into some more dense undergrowth. 0, Hi Tracey Thanks for reading and for sharing your thoughts on Muriels case. Former Detective Inspector Paul Bethell, who was in charge of South Wales Police's cold case team, explained in the documentary: "We know Muriel used to catch the school bus from the school to the gateway off the main road which led to the forestry, and then she would walk about a mile through the forestry, along the lane to the farmhouse.". [8] Scientists successfully retrieved a DNA profile from this stain. Play it now! From the statements of the day it appeared her mum was making a pot of tea and looked out the window and actually saw Muriel about 500 yards away coming up the track towards the farmhouse. Muriels nieces family took the books to the bookshop after Muriels brother-in-law died last year. Another witness came forward to tell the team that Ronnie Harries had worked on a farm in Penllergaer, evidence that was supported from a newspaper cutting at the time. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. Muriel Drinkwater was raped and shot dead as she walked home from a school bus in Penllergaer, Swansea, Serial killer Harold Jones (pictured as a 15-year-old) killed two young girls when he was just 15 and was jailed for 20 years. A 73-year-old sample semen has conclusively disproved the theory Harold Jones was the killer of 12-year-old schoolgirl Muriel Drinkwater, Get the latest court and crime news from WalesOnline. "[4] Police also circulated photos of the United States Army-issued gun; notably, perspex had been used to modernise the original wooden stocks next to the grip. "I was about nine at the time and he was about twice my age, but I felt, at nine, that I was his intellectual superior," he said. Her eyes were wide open and her skin was deathly white. If you can contact [emailprotected] Id really appreciate it. We got a partial profile, given that it was the oldest cold case with a semen stain on it that we had been working on.". 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