: 25, 9 150, cant see anything but have to adapt.. Why do people use extrapolation and what advantage does it give? As an oldschool player, I don't think the thing "extrapolation" has been as positive thing. Here are some basic rules: never let an player of the other team be closet player to your goal. :D (ok it's press R in-game to record replay, simple!) Clears the password of the room. Players must compete against other players to try and score as many goals as possible. Players who play with very high extrapolation values give up on smoothness and fine movement in favor of being able to predict the big general moves from their opponents. I don't mind on the design, doesn't even matter. Stores the current stadium of the room, the stadium will then appear in the stadium selection menu. This allows you to press while always seeing the 'worst case scenario' (the heavy/longer movement the opponent could use to kick the ball past you), which makes it very easy to press and always go as close as possible WHILE never moving too close that you won't reach 'the worst case scenario' if you opponent uses that, because you are always seeing the heavy/longer movements much earlier. Added one-click to leave, so you can leave rooms without a second confirm button (disabled by default). It was really enjoyable and smooth in only 1 day, sadly. Then all players complained about that, and basro was afraid of it (like Feed Me admins who can't ban these players),, so he "deleted" the update again. Visit haxcolors.com Key Findings. I especially agree with what Jacob mentioned in his post, if it's possible to match the physics of the game to the previous flash version that would be great and maybe it's worth a try? On a positive note, if your level is good and you are able to compete against these players you have unwittingly train yourself to be way better than them. ^^, Well, fake kick should in theory work like you said, but in reality, guys with high (100-200) extrapolation, doing fake kicks or standard movement will appear laggy and jittery to others, even if you're using 0 extra (unplayable with delays, even 30-40 that I'm using now is giving me a fair bit of delay, but extrapolation just ruins the game, even though it gives advantages on top tier of haxball). : 4, 5 Yes, but all of what you write happens on the client, not on the server. We are disclosing this in accordance with the Federal Trade Commission's 16 CFR, Part 255: "Guides Concerning the Use of Endorsements and Testimonials in Advertising" and also in accordance to amazon associates programme operating agreement. Igual por lo que entiendo el hack de deslizamiento que mencions es el de /extrapolation, no? It can be used to counteract the effects of input delay but at the cost of extra warping in the game prediction. I get that extrapolation helps some people to reduce the input delay. X Turbo es una Macro/Script cuya funcin principal es bsicamente ayudar al jugador a "trabar" mejor. Also, when he limited extrapolation, it was smooth, but not enough to match the physics of the game to the previous flash version. 6,7,8,9 are the default keys but these can easily be changed at the top of the script. Be aware that this is still a beta function! Adds a certain amount of milliseconds of lag to your client, this can be used to give yourself a disadvantage. And the client can be modified, I could just remove the check client-side and bypass the limit. This is what Saviola, who has a good understanding of game engines, told me: Mask requirements. Your Player Auth is often used by headless rooms admins to authenticate you or to save your in-game statistics. For example, you may be someone who often changes extrapolation and youd prefer not to type the full command each time. There is still a passionate debate if this is actually a big advantage for players abusing these values or not. The solution should be to tweak the game physics to make it harder to defend. At first 100 extrapolation will seem laggy and useless, but in the long run, the 100ms prediction helps A LOT with the skill, you bounce the ball on the wall, but you see everything 100ms in the future, you can control it way better once your brains adapt to it, do faster tricks, etc. A forum for the hungry members of the Haxball community. Read More STATUS Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Group. It is something we have to use to keep up, but don't like using because its shaky gameplay. Hide NavBar feature: annoyed by the lost of screen estate from the navigation bar? I feel like we're fighting for "meta" (where I said in my first post, that it's not luck anymore). basro stated that when he restored the 200 limit. I will proceed to continue reading this issue (I always read all issues), but I will probably not reply here again unless there's something new for me to say. The same applies to passing, when you are reading your teammates movement, you see him turn to you heavy/longer, and you see this before it happens (and with experience you know exactly what situations they will do it), so you give yourself more time to adjust your positioning so that you give the perfect pass back or the perfect angle to shoot. It is also a fact that flash had higher network latency. Hover over, and scroll to click your favourite country! Also, if you would like to have more than 1 search term, simply separate it with a +. Well, do you know some things that might change the entire Haxball then? to your account. @kingjasko extrapolation is a rendering setting, it only affects how the game is drawn on your screen. New in version 0.2.4: added hotkeys to access other camera views (press 5, 6, 7, or 8 while in-game), links in chat will now be "clickable" hyperlinks that open in a new tab, minor fixes to hiding chat Admin Kick/Ban shortcuts: having difficulties kicking or banning abusive users quickly? ignore few people, most of players are used to it and have no problem using extrapolation. A forum for the hungry members of the Haxball community. You signed in with another tab or window. #3 Aula Haxball - Extrapolation tpc 368 subscribers Subscribe 217 Share Save 11K views 1 year ago #haxball #tupac #aula Contato: Discord - @tpc #9100 Twitter - @mvrcxlx Show more Show more Chat. Well occasionally send you account related emails. New in version 0.2.2: overhaul of add-on settings in the nickname selection page, also the option to hide chat completely (not just transparency!) Haxball shouldn't be like this, it should be a level-playing field for everybody. At the moment the app runs the default game. For Firefox, a user must have Add-ons . If I were to make a a version of haxball that has rendering disabled I'd not even have to read the extrapolation variable. However, the longer prediction you ask for, the bigger the margin for error. Hi, I'd like to make this discussion to hopefully gather some feedback and present it to basro, so that hopefully we see further improvements in the game, since I feel like a lot of people have similar problem to my own and it makes me not want to play this game anymore. Extrapolation was introduced to help the players with input delay, but the amount of players who have that problem is a small minority. Type in the search term "spacebounce+soccer" and you'll have it! VER EQUIPOS SPONSORS VER MS PRENSA Colaboradores Quieres Inscribirte? . Damn, just see how likes I got, I think my topic is most liked HaxBall topic on Github at the moment, @basro please, at least listen to some player and speak with him (like @Jacob-1998 or @iscoman) about why, how, what, etc. Haxball All-in-one Tool adds a few time-saving features to the existing HTML5 version of the game. And basro so you know, kingjasko just won the HCL Final Using extrapolation amplifies the effect of prediction errors, but only for your own client. It has lost all it's charm. I had the input delay back then, too. You now have it :D Credits to P a c i f i c for helping with the implementation :) To better explain "chances", I will show you to look goals at some recs (top matches) and please, tell us what do you think about this. This extension asks for permission to store information on your computer to keep track of your selection for which tool to enable, and also your most recent room search term. Please basro wake up to whats happening, everybody is complaining about cancer gameplay so much because we all remember how it used to be. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. GitHub Open on Apr 13, 2020 9999OldSchool commented on Apr 13, 2020 Remove extrapolation: I already tried this, it was a shit-fest, I wont try it again. It is entirely possible that flash had slightly higher input lag (although I don't really feel it and many people have complained to me that html5 has higher input lag). So a lot of people are using higher extrapolation to get the power of mindfucking opponents with fake kicks and such, since it's impossible to trust your own eyes anymore in this era of Haxball. Now that this is mentioned, I do notice I have a slight delay on my key input when I play but thought it was my imagination lol have I been handicapping myself for 3 years? Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest, Jump to: Board index Haxball General Haxball Discussion. I'm just showing these goals to @basro how it feels playing HTML5 HaxBall. Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Group. Matches are 20 minutes long, but you'd easily spend 15 minutes with a "dead" ball around throw-in line, fighting for millimeters of space and trying to trick your opponents to get a throw for your own team. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. When chat is hidden, you can still use the "Tab" key to quickly access chat - and after you're done with sending your message, the chat area will disappear :) Luego hay que abrir este programa, y seguir los siguientes pasos respectivamente: elegir un dominio de HaxBall a donde quieres colocar la bandera, elegir una bandera de la lista y a continuacin hacer clic en Set. The way in which HaxBall detects your location is not infallible and. We all just want to have the fun even it's dead game, but still. We had enough of pinball Haxball and spam games with this 0 Input Delay HTML Engine physics. Before that update, it was playable and smooth as fuck, it was way too superior to Flash Haxball. : 3, 8 Every mistake in Flash HaxBall was punishment, which we all took it seriously and played safe how it should be. You are too smart to disregard this without any thought as 'dumb' basro, we can make Haxball better again, its possible. 1. This is important as you will see further below. : 5, 4 No one likes the way how the game is created at the moment, bruh. Work with your team . Simply right click their name and press the mute button! Talk about haxball in here, maps, sides, players, tactics, anything related to the game. PREGUNTAS FRECUENTES; More. Also, his "scientific" answer is simply a logical answer, the physics code was not changed. There's also a hidden feature baked in this update.. can you find it? If you're/have playing/ed Fortnite with a controller on PC or Console, you would know how it feels (destroying the competitive Fortnite), unfortunanely. If you're having trouble getting allowed in large games because of your newbie status try creating your own room. These are real problems that have gone on for too long, Haxball can do much better than this and I know you can too, its possible. It is impossible to kick faster than this. It makes you a better player over people not using extrapolation, pretty much by synthetic cheating, but at the cost of having a fun and smooth gameplay. Someone posted and it proves, as I said in previous comments, that extrapolation just needs to be removed and that's it. Extrapolation as a term is "the action of estimating or concluding something by assuming that existing trends will continue or a current method will remain applicable". Never argue with an idiot. Watch some good players and see how they position themselves. by Katrina February 28th, 2020, 4:54 am, by supernatural February 28th, 2020, 5:13 am, by saviola February 28th, 2020, 7:51 am, by supernatural February 28th, 2020, 12:47 pm, by saviola February 28th, 2020, 12:54 pm, by supernatural February 28th, 2020, 1:10 pm, by saviola February 28th, 2020, 1:11 pm, by supernatural February 28th, 2020, 1:17 pm, Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest, Jump to: Board index Other Stuff General Discussion. The old heavy movement is the key for this game to be good again, with patterns skills tactics tackles and more all being at a much higher level (mostly thanks to patterns in all those situations, which disappear when theres no Tiny Input Delay). : 3, 0 Its about the heavy movement, not the ping or latency or anything else like that. O Haxball apresenta comandos que podem ser utilizados durante uma partida. : 8, 7 For me the strategic side of the game interests me the most, so I spent past few seasons developing a tactic that would work best in terms of positioning with and without possession. I've already explained why it can't be removed. Don't just go chasing after the ball all the time. Most of them are used to playing with extraolation and there are several new players who are coming to haxball thanks to tik tok for example and it is easy for them to get used to playing with high extrapolation, they have no complaints. After that, you updated something and almost all players started to have input delay including me, it wasn't even the same physics, I can remember it really well. As you remember I gave you a long detailed email explaining the precise details as to why the TINY Input Delay (arguably 0.05msec or less, needs testing though), gave the game MUCH more structure and depth and fun and addicting everything else already stated. Most passes come from heavy/longer movements of your teammate when they turn to you, its just the nature of the game at a reasonable level. We do not charge for downloads nor collect any fees from users. Once upon a time, Haxball was the game in which the most creative and talented players would win, but now, it's all about the quality of handling huge extrapolation and doing the "fake x" feint bug. Comes together with the text expansion macro. Click here to read the FAQ page. You're very friendly. New in version 0.4.2: a "beep" notification will happen after autojoin. The real issue of haxball is that you rarely make updates even when some of them are easy to do. If he cant find that number, I and many here would be more than happy to test different numbers until we find the one that we agree feels exactly like Flash again. Auto Join: trying to join a full room? If you liked making the game, then you should listen people playing your game and compare thoughts = more money = more updates. I've been reaching out to you for a long time now to give you my opinion on how the game feels and compares to flash on the highest level. More ping - > having the ball let the owner trust his gameplay whereas opponents trusts their eyes -> easier juke, So maybe (and probably) the gameplay was more enjoyable, but this is harshly due to the ping more than the physic I've already explained why it can't be removed. Anyway, since some of our coders have already totally deep copied the games, it's a matter of time before we move onto these "new" haxball, maybe to prevent that, your solution would be to put the game as open source and to accept push requests, so you'll keep earning money with ads and haxball will naturally live again. No, the server cannot check the extrapolation. I don't want to keep repeating myself. Agree with most of what's being said in this post. Press the hide chat toggle on the score/time bar (or using the ~ key or " key on the top left of your keyboard), and it'll show/hide your chat :) But if you still need to chat quickly, just press "Tab" and chat normally If you play in the sweet spot (~20-60ms) predictions are most of the time accurate, meaning your rendering is smooth and you see almost no stuttering. Click the button when in the room to remove it :) Pause (P): Para pausar o jogo, aperte a tecla P. Nmero/Nome do Avatar: Para mudar o nmero/nome do avatar, digite o comando /avatar (nmero/nome). The owner of this website is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com. Add input lag: Seriously? Playing with 60 extrapolation only because i can't play with higher extrapolation. Have a question about this project? @Jacob-1998 I'll humour you this one time and take the opportunity to warn you that if you keep spamming on unrelated issues I'll start having to moderate you. 'Adding a synthetic delay should be easy, convincing basro that it is good might be the harder part.'. Clears the player avatar text, the player text will be his number. I guess I played this game long enough to have a valid view on the game, so I'll share my view, as well. 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