All why surrounding himself w/yes men. Publicizing viewpoints rejected by the elder majority for any reason is satanic to the core. We are stunned at the response of our pastor and a ministry leader who have declined to meet us as God directs us in Matthew 18. Do you read the elder updates? The Elephants Debt, which had posted criticism of MacDonald, including stories by former Harvest members, elders, pastors, and staff, throughout 2012 and 2013, went on a posting hiatus at around this time. Yes Nellie, we are called to bring light on the darkness. I didnt know you personally, but was a part of and benefited from the many programs that you offered through womens ministry. He unsubscribed from the emails but they were still sent him texts asking him to give. I am thankful for JESUS that used Pastor James in my life. I just knew I wasnt supposed to be there anymore. I do believe you. The Scripture that came to me as I read this is I Timothy 1:7 For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but one of power, love, and sound judgment. Thank you, Lina. Speaking the truth and not cowering in the corner. As of November, 2021, HBC is $34,000,000 in debt. The only thing I liked about that church was the worship, which was glorifying to the Lord. As a nation, something painful will bring us back. Thank you for your honesty and your explanation. Wow Nancy K, after all that has been said and done, seemingly over many years, it is startling to me that you would make such a commemtWow, Why? In her expos, titled Hard Times at Harvest, Roys details evidence from former Harvest elders, employees and members that show an ongoing pattern of relational and financial abuse, a lack of transparency and outright deception., Harvest strongly disputes the claims, saying Roys has an unhealthy fixation on the church and failed to uncover the desired scandal.. While I am heartened that the elders finally removed MacDonald, he should have been fired five years ago. Praying for this church also that Gods Holy Spirit is cleaning/healing/humbling/teaching his people. A woman who is full of fun loving life. 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I have always wondered why you left Lina but didnt know you personally to ask. In addition, what was shared now, may have been heard better now, then it would have been heard before Lina left Harvest. Lina has every right to speak her truth . There were several close family deaths, lost our home, business and more. It is important to bring light to this matter, help yourself and others heal and put a new song of praise and trust in Our God. Start praying for Jesus to heal the entire body of which He Alone is the Head. Thanks Sheila. Its very important that people share their stories. http://www.issendai.com/psychology/sick-systems.html. Listen, believe, obey, shut up. REALLY !! I applaud you for your courage to leave the church and let the fall out damage by James to you as a person and your career ministry, to be in Gods hands. Anil. He grew the church from 18 members to more. #justsaying #carryon, Youd have to read the blog. A year or so before leaving Harvest I had written a blog post about holiness in which I had referenced the growing fad of tattoos in our culture. see My Dream Church https://sites.google.com/site/mydreamchurch/, I would love to chat and learn more of what you are doing. Mind you, I didnt simply walk out. Connect With Us! (My) fear was in upsetting James Lina, thank you for your honesty. In the past we were to study pulpit curriculum and bible vocabulary. Where there is no vision and freedom the people perish. I am sorry that you experienced this fear. He stomped his questioners. And your part of the problem. Opt out of mega church? I do have cds and dvd of contemporary Christian artists. I am delighted to hear that. While tens of thousands flocked to campus, school officials met in a storage closet to make decisions that would honor what is happening.. Please pray for all of the member/attendees who are struggling, as we are grieving a loss of our church base and have felt the wrath, unfortunately. www. The good intentions of our ministry partnership with Harvest Chicago have been overshadowed by these developments, he said. Thank goodness God is still God! He is very likely not a brother in Christ. Being part of Harvest, and hearing how the utmost leaders were tattooed with the Vertical Church logo, as I prepare the lesson, I cant help but wonder about the tattoo on the bodies of those who accepted the mark of James as their alliance with the Vertical Church of James. Ezekiel 22:27: Her princes [leaders] within her are like wolves tearing the prey, by shedding blood and destroying lives in order to get dishonest gain. I have lived with fear in my life almost my entire life. I believe Lina did do the best she could at the time. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); LIVING WITH POWER MINISTRIES: 119 S EMERSON ST. #213 | MOUNT PROSPECT, IL 60056 | 224-634-6777 | [emailprotected]. Anointing: Every believer is a priest in the new covenant. Also I Cor. A friend sent me a link to sermon about this yesterday: https://radical.net/sermon/kingdom-community/. Nellie-What you might not know. But I lived this in the late 70s and early 80s the scandals of the then big preachers they fell down hard as well. Truth heals. The culture of fear, intimidation, and secrecy has poisoned not just Rolling Meadows and its campuses, but also trickled down through the fellowship. Sports Betting Hits a New High: A Crisis in the Making? This should not be! Do you see any fruit from him of what God speaks of? I keep coming back to this part and I identify so much with this part. What does the Bible say about debt? Gordon Zwirkoski, a former Harvest elder and the original director of HBF, told Roys that James MacDonald essentially wields ultimate authority at the church and cultivates a spirit of fear in the staff. Former Harvest employee Dave Jones says his church has welcomed dozens of Harvest refugees who show signs of spiritual abuse and are disillusioned.. James MacDonald was forced out Tuesday night as senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel, a church he founded in Rolling Meadows some 30 years ago. These three men had then joined six other former eldersthese men had all left Harvest entirelyin writing and sending a letter to the current elder board raising concerns about MacDonalds leadership. Fear is never a godly way of governing. Not one. You are a fraud and a liar! No shame here for Lina. The Right's New Lie: The Left Gave Us Toxic Masculinity, The Harvest Bible Chapel Scandal in a Nutshell (And Why You Should Care). We have now been without a fellowship for nearly a year (we are missionaries in Europe) because I do not want to join a happy clappy crowd who would not know the Word of God were it to bite them nor do I want to join a fellowship where the Word is extremely well known but there is no life, no joy. Do not judge the timing, Gods timing is Always Perfect. There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, and nothing hidden that will not be made known. Fear. You are courageous and your words bring healing. There are larger lessons to be learned. whos fault is this? Our full Sunday service will be streamed here every week beginning at 9:30am, and will be available throughout the following week. Gods hand is on Harvest and the dark is continuing to be shown. Others had old wounds that had resurfaced and were hurting, having never felt closure to their stories, Abujamra, a Bible teacher and Moody Radio host, wrote on her blog. These changes were never made, but the critics were silencedfor a time. Thank you, Lord, for Ephesians 6:13: With so much gaslighting going on and public take-downs of those who would speak truth to power, and your investment in the church industrial complex, I can imagine how difficult it wouldve been to speak out publicly at the time of your leaving. God is sovereign, He is the Healer, He is the Restorer, He is the Renewer, and He will continue to do what He is doing in order to bring about His will for His people. Nancy You sound like you still attend thereand you seem double minded. I no longer help lead a larger mens ministry. I left Harvest CL 3 yrs ago after being forced out of a ministry and other thingspart of the membership indoctrinationyou are not allowed to say anything disparaging against church leadership or the church. Thank you for this. And the lies werent just shared by James. I kept seeing little hints of questionable goings-on at Harvest Bible Church, a large megachurch in suburban Chicago, but didnt really pay attention until last week, when the issue blew up in the most bizarre way. My father went through prostate cancer. This included an abusive and fear-based culture where those who question leadership are punished, she writes. The moment I read about someone saying something about planting child pornography on the Christianity Todaycomputers, I knew I had to figure out what the heck was going on. This is a very vulnerable time for a lot of people and I am sure God weeps for every single wounded soul.. God has this situation in his hands he wasnt surprised by it. Many are in or have been in denial. We are satisfied and grateful to our pastor for his Christlike behavior. Structure: the structure of My Dream Church is based on the New Testament Body Of Christ While Harvest the pastor there for years had some good preaching. These are the same elders who signed the letter of unconditional support for James, and then they fire him? The caller alleged (in vulgar terms) that Roys, the reporter, was having an affair with Christianity Todayseditor-in-chief Mark Galli, andmade a comment about bringing down former Christianity Today CEO down by remotely uploading child pornography onto his computers. Leaving spiritual abuse is okay, you cant be expected to change it while youre in the midst of it. Or they, too, are so rotten at the core that they dont care. Is many people for years have tried to bring things to light privately. 4. Can you imagine how God feels when he sees his churches ( all denominations, we are in this together). Thankful for the freedom you have found and are willing to speak up. Looking back over my life I see how all things have led to today. Before the article was even printed, Harvest sued Roys, plus two bloggers who've been critical about problems at Harvest. An eight-month investigation into pastor James MacDonald and Harvest Bible Chapel, his Chicago-area megachurch, culminated last week with the publication of a World Magazine article by Julie Roys. Until then, you are still a wolf in sheeps clothing. superstar pastors are always ,inevitably, trouble. The congregation has been deceived, lied to, and hounded to give sacrificially, all the while the senior pastor has been making hundreds of thousands of dollars. If you know anything about abusive relationshipsHBC is in the honeymoon phase right now.look it up!! Ross, Ross Blomberg, I didnt want to upset James. Others, too, could see the attitude. Its hard to step out alone but God always protects and brings darkness into the light to be seen. There are no ongoing issues of any kind. I was counted as one of the privileged ones and considered it a great honor to know James personally and even be considered as part of his inner circle at that time. We are wounded and grieving. Free of James fear. But your words affirmed what I suspected. The collaboration of many witnesses should help the leadership at Harvest (or any church) know the depth of a problem. God bless you. Lina, thank you for your post, and thank you for your honesty and transparency. I assumed that you had simply moved on to bigger and better things. So Grace is only for MacDonald and no one else not the elders he excommunicated, not the numerous employees who were fired or kids who were expelled from HCA, not the pastor who was fired in FLORIDA and had his church taken away I would ask you SERIOUSLY??!! Five years ago, Harvest Bible Chapel, a Chicago-area megachurch with multiple campuses and an average weekly attendance exceeding 12,000, sent shock waves through the Christian community when it publicly excommunicated two former elders and indirectly censured a third. Thank you for teaching even in the midst of giving your testimony. Thankful for her thoughtful response and I agree with you that God knows all of this and isnt surprised by any of it including the timing of her response. @Donna Is it possible that it is God Himself who is exposing these misdeeds? Your two posts make no sense I hope you get some sense and realize people in Church are not infallible only Jesus! needless to say she did not go back and found a great church she was able to become a part of during her college years. Also, for 2 years I felt my prayers didnt get past the ceiling. Because TRANSPARENCY is neededand now ahe may be starting to feel safe. I have multiple thoughts. So now, I tell the truth about what happened, and it isnt only a Pastor James problem. Thank you for all you do. My family attended a smaller Harvest church close to Elgin. 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The leader of that church, John Secrest, was blindsided by the news and asked Harvest elders to reconsider allowing MacDonald to preach there. In a recorded video message, Bill Sperling, an elder, told the congregation that the elders concluded that there is a sinful pattern of inappropriate language, anger and domineering behavior. Look, Im sorry, but thats a bit late. What blessings are flowing at Harvest for those who stand firm! The practice of medicine is not an exact science; neither is navigating very tough and painful circumstances such as this. On Tuesday, Chicago shock jock and one-time friend of MacDonaldMancow Muller aired a series of clips featuring someone who sounds like MacDonald making offensive comments. James biggest issue was his condemnation of other preachers, he never mentioned them by name he knew better, but I knew who he was talking about. Nothing will change at Harvest if the cancer of fear is not exposed . He is angry that they keep on sending texts and emails asking for money. Seriously? Your daily news briefing from the editors of CT. Can Bubble Tea Bring Gen Z into the Chinese Church. [], Lost me at the private jet shared with Bill Hibel. As a result, I was asked to meet with the elders, pull the blog piece and write a new one that James would first approve. Politics and religion have a great affect on society, and both must be monitored to protect the people. Transparency in finances How are you so sure she didnt pray about this? Thanks for speaking up! Harvest womans Tuesday bible study group has not studied a book of the Bible in a couple of years. I hope it doesnt chase people away from their spiritual questaway from God., I take no joy in this announcement, said Muller. Thank you Lina for your honesty and boldness and ultimately helping me put words to what I have been experiencing through the preaching of James. Criticism of MacDonald begun to surface on The Elephants Debt, a blog founded in 2012, run by Ryan Mahoney and Scott Bryant, former members era of Harvest Bible Church. May the love of Jesus Christ and his peace flood over you this day! That, it seems, was what it took to finally break his hold over his current elder board; to finally convince the elders that they were wrong to keep listening to his excuses. In early 2018, reporter Julie Roys, who writes for the conservative evangelical WORLD Magazine, began conducting background research for an article, which was published eight months later under the headline Hard Times at Harvest. For me, I would like to apologize for not reaching out to you when I finally realized that you had left HBC. When you are in a position where fear dictates the position you cannot speak out while under that. But thats how it happens at Harvest, right? I so agree with your cancer analogy as it relates to Harvest. He was the senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel megachurch in Rolling Meadows, Illinois, United States [1] [2] and was the host for the church's former broadcast ministry, Walk in the Word . Those who would shame someone for standing on the side of truth and grace have missed the mark. Horrified. Pray for those of us who donate 10 percent of our income and would like to know where the money really goes. Fear is what has been under all this, I would not be surprised if there is some fear in Jamess heart that is the root cause of his sins here. For me, it is because it is time for truth. If you know anything about abuse it can take years to come forward. As an encouragement, from day 1, as you began your faith walk ministry, starting a Women of Power teaching ministry at Harvest, I have watched your character. You did the right thing and I believe more will step up not to dishonor James, but noticing how much the church has changed. What is strange about your concern about your own fear is I have been of thee opinion that Pastor James must have been ruled by his own fear-fear of losing influence and the fear of losing his ministry. Only time will tell whether Harvest can outlive its founding pastorand the scandal that has enveloped both him and his elder board. Amy. You are joined with so many ex harvesters that were wounded deeply by what became a toxic culture at HBC. The fired senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel megachurch is contending, in a new lawsuit, that an attorney and accountants hired by the church took part in a "smear . I feel like I cant trust my own judgment any more. Brave. In the wake of his departure, the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability acknowledged serious concerns around spending and financial stewardship under MacDonald that resulted in the church losing its membership status. People in leadership are there one day, and then poof! Did they not find that video shocking? Thank you Lina, So many of his followers would still want him as a preacher. I never understood why they saw him the way they do. You too felt you had to leave Harvest and what was your point of conviction on having to leave the Church ,that we all sacrificed so much for! The Rolling Meadows Campus is our founding campus and for more than three decades has testified to God's faithfulness. He also makes vulgar comments about Wheaton College executive director of the Billy Graham Center Ed Stetzer and repeatedly degrades Julie Roys, the reporter who wrote the World Magazine story. To heal enough to communicate and receiving shaming comments like yours. The surprise is not Harvest, but that you publicly hung them. James is (was) a powerful force which could and did destroy people with his power and influence. I pray for the leaders. In 2013, in a story covered bymajor evangelical news outlets, Harvest publicly excommunicated two former elders who were still members of Harvest. Matthew 7:15: Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. Often it was the leadership that lost track and influenced the group. There are dozens if not hundreds of witnesses against many Elders at Harvest all saying the same thing. I believe my continued presence wouldve required me to openly protest in every Sunday service because to remain silent through the service wouldve done injustice to the victims and passively shown support for the authoritarian leaders who refused to repent. DONT defend these people in any way!! The question is with independent churches who did they answer to? Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. Now you can stop going to church altogether and free your mind from religious delusion. Im thankful you followed the Lords leading in these stressful and difficult circumstances. Its like I seek mans favor as well, rather than the Lords. Even now, many years later, the enemy could still, if I let him, get me questioning my motives and trying to persuade me I was in the wrong not the shepherds. Id be interested in reading you blog on tattoos. Jesus taught eternal love. I pray that no stench of fear be found in any space occupied by Christs love. You followed what God would have instructed you to handle this situation.you started by going to the leaders of the church for answers and none were given. She will be one of many many many many who come forward so if you dont like it, dont read. It was your Study that helped me be obedient to God. Thank you for sharing your story, Lina. model and not on the Old Testament hierarchical model. Did you know that Satan and his minions come to Harvest? Harvest will also reimburse MacDonald another quarter-million dollars related to selling his former home and transfer compensation related to his retirement benefits. Praying for you for healing and for growth and strength during all of this. Data Coordination. You are loved. Leba and Sheila- Keep on being brave- it encourages me to do the same! No one wins here-except our enemy. Our Elders and Staff are committed to fulfilling our fiduciary duty as the leadership of this congregation, knowing that at times the outcome may be misunderstood or emotionally painful, the elders statement read, promising a more detailed plan for the churchs future in coming weeks. No, I dont as well as many others. :) I met my husband about 5 yrs ago and he had been attending faith community church for a bit. It was engaging at times. This woman sounds sincere. Lauren Boebert And Marjorie Greene's Adult "So Your Problem with Christianity is the Jesus No, the "Second Shift" Isn't Feminism's Fault. 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