[14] After this date, the passenger versions of Class 37 and 47, as well as Class 50, were routinely outshopped in this livery. GBR will be made up of five regional divisions, organised in line with Network Rail's Putting Passengers First programme. Following the introduction of the Advanced Passenger Train in 1983, a similar livery to the APT's (dark grey on the upper body, and light beige on the lower, with two stripes of red and white separating them) was experimentally applied to two HST sets and the coaches operating the Gatwick Express service between London Victoria and Gatwick Airport. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Great Britain's railway system was built by private companies, but it was nationalised by the Transport Act 1947 and was run from then onwards by British Railways (which traded as British Rail from 1965) until privatisation, which was begun in 1994 and completed in 1997. It's already been seen with the government controlled LNER and GWR franchises for example. Great Britain is not a country; its a landmass. It may not display this or other websites correctly. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The United Kingdom is defined clearly on the passport .. the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Swiss style would be nice, British society & culture wouldn't allow this as we for example don't have direct democracy as in Switzerland this is a very good example of how it can work, credit to Dispatcher on the Stour on Twitter. In 1986 the British Railways Board divided its operations into a number of sectors (sectorisation).The sector responsible for long-distance express trains assumed the brand-name . Still makes me cringe everytime I see/read 'Great' in front of anything British since this mob got in. Although from the mid-1960s to the 1980s the organisation was associated with "Rail Blue", a number of other schemes were also used, especially when it was split into operating units or "sectors" in the mid-1980s. English regions, Scotland, and Wales will have their own variants, but these will still emphasise the national nature of GBR. don't see an issue anywhere, as long as the concessions stay branded with whatever. [citation needed]. It does affect other devolved rail operators, including ScotRail, Transport for Wales, London Overground, Elizabeth line (Crossrail), and Merseyrail, as well as the combined authorities that oversee other local railway networks in England. Rail alphabet had the advantage of being clear, legible and was pretty much consistently applied. Every TfW station I've been to are still ATW-branded (in fact, Hereford yesterday). Because for my money blue & grey is not the "same basic livery" as Swallow, neither is NSEs toothpaste anything like the red and cream worn in the 50s. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Particularly if they are just vinyls on white painted trains. And Great Britain is more often than not used to mean the whole of England/Scotland/Wales, excluding Northern Ireland - a legacy of the Kingdom of Great Britain, which existed from 1707 to 1800. Given the furious backlash over the Protocol, as well as the ill-managed disappointment that was the two parties 2010 link-up (under the awful acronym UCUNF), one can understand why Northern Irish politicians shy away from the Tories. I can sort of understand lumping Moorgate services in with London Overground, but LNER to Kings Lynn has been suggested many times without any compelling reason as to why, beyond "something something intercity standard", This idea often seems to pop its head up. I'm inclined to disagree. Great British Railways: Livery, branding and appearance? Great British Railways: Livery, branding and appearance? I dont think we will see train liveries being changed for a while. The Overground operates under its own livery. [4] Normal passenger service franchise mechanisms were amended, transferring almost all revenue and cost risk to the government, effectively 'renationalising' those services temporarily. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; I wanted to go for something modern yet flexible. There are conflicting view on Britain versus Great Britain. But then every time I look at a train, I'll think of a bus. This may well take time to introduce and rollout but my suggestion is as follows. Except their is massive nostalgia for BR days. I might take an example railway station (I'm thinking Rugby) and design signage made for that specific station, to see how things could look practically Not convinced. Given that the vast majority of passengers dont really care what the brand is, do GBR really need a brand? [7]. The BR that believed in having multiple liveries and brands? The livery derived its nickname from a perceived resemblance to the internal appearance of a Jaffa Cake. NR do infrastructure in Wales & Scotland, don't they? JavaScript is disabled. Great British Railways: The Williams-Shapps Plan for Rail (print version) Ref: ISBN 978-1-5286-2465-7 , CCS0321182446 05/21 , CP 423 PDF , 55.8 MB , 112 pages Order a copy [13] Initially new locos were still painted in the traditional Rail Blue livery, but starting with Class 56 number 56084 the new Large Logo version was standard on new locos delivered to BR. I'm not convinced "InterCity" services warrant different branding now, as they are no longer of premium quality in terms of service provision; in many case they're just regional or commuter services (thinks XC and GWR in particular). Privacy Noticeand Website Accessibility. I personally like this Lion logo posted by Tim Dunn on twitter a few years ago. After contacting GBRTT (Transition Team), I have been informed of their intention to create a new livery. I think in Germany it is done by using the "TOC" name in place of IC etc. Avanti merged with LNWR to form a GNWR brand. Another Class 52, No.D1015 Western Champion was delivered in another, darker yellow/brown colour described as 'Golden Ochre', though somewhat different from that applied to D5579. "Great" means "large", not "very good". Not sure but I was also thinking of the winding up arrangements that would've taken place at privatisation i.e. Great British Railways: Livery, branding and appearance? The creation of Great British Railways (GBR) has been dubbed as the end to "a quarter-century of fragmentation" and a means to provide "accountable national leadership". This style of livery was also used by CSX Transportation. For 2mm/N equivalents, change the start of the reference number FRH4 for FRH2. Then theres the question of livery. I think you are mixing up ownership with some form of ideological uniformity. As built it was a sort of purplish-red stripe with a lighter red shadow, then this changed to solid red in the late 90s/early 2000s. Now there's a system others can look up to. Well Id have thought it might be GBR Northern or GBR Southern. particularly associated with the depots at Old Oak Common and This included many of the features which were later incorporated in the Mark 2, and trialled in an experimental train designated XP64. I really quite like that now. it remains to be seen if their just gonna bite the bullet and conform the entirety of rolling stock on the GBR network to a nice Blue and Cream livery. Because it's not going to be the same as BR. Class 52 No.D1015 restored to 1960's Western Region Maroon livery. I do also like the theory that these regions they mention will be named after old railway companies. GBR will develop masterplans for station renewal. Great Western Railways/British Railway Western Region. It may not display this or other websites correctly. There just isn't room on a well functioning railway for true competition, so you might as well focus on the passenger experience, not the rail operator experience. Of course it's possible to do better, but I'd argue there are bigger priorities as long as the signage is fit for purpose. However, these bodies will be required to coordinate with GBR to deliver a single national rail network, including one website and app, as well as following national branding and passenger standards. On 10 June 1986, British Rail launched Network SouthEast, an organisation designed to cut across the traditional regional boundaries and deliver a co-ordinated train service for London and the surrounding region. One of the worst liveries they ever carried, never seen a HST look so poor. This colour was applied to all diesel and electric locomotives, with the exception of the ends, which were painted yellow to improve visibility, and the underframes and buffer beams which were painted black; the paints being to BSS 2660-0.003 and BSS 2660-9.103 respectively. I wonder if we might actually see things like "Northern - by Great British Railways" rather than one single overarching branding. Aren't best impressions the ones that did the 2015 Virgin East Coast HST? [14] By 16 March (the deadline for submitting expressions of interest), 42 towns and cities had expressed an interest in hosting GBR's headquarters. Instead, I just added an icon next to the full text and removed it from the main station name. Maybe a "way out" arrow similar to Thameslink's station signage could make it more exciting, while also adding a bit more functionality? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Can you only be professional if every rail person works in the same uniform? GBR is not quite the same, so they no doubt want it to be seen as distinct; plus, it may not even be possible to call it BR, there might be legal implications (just a guess). We will probably get something like this Shorthand and in general parlance yes, but Great British Railways will be a brand that the DfT will want to get out there sooner rather than later, even if it is just a vinyl on top of existing TOC names. The new British Rail "double arrow" symbol on locomotives (or leading vehicle as was the case on multiple unit stock) and the vehicle number and other ancillary markings written in the Rail Alphabet typeface were other integral parts of the livery. And it that light it is intriguing that Ministers have decided to take a step back towards a national rail network with the launch of Great British Railways (GBR). But the move still opens up some possibilities which Michael Gove and the rest of the Governments Union strategy team should consider. You are using an out of date browser. Class 01 01002 inside Holyhead Breakwater shed in early black livery. Boris Johnson has announced that Britain is to have a new public rail operator, Great British Railways (GBR), in the biggest shake-up of the country's trains since privatisation a quarter. Why do you show the double-arrow logo *and* the words "Great British Railways"? For cost reasons, liveries were usually changed piecemeal, when coaches came in for scheduled maintenance. Home Forums . The standard livery for most British Railways steam locomotives was black, often with a thin red, cream and grey "lining" (trim), while express passenger locomotives were not painted "Brunswick Green" (Which was the former colour of the Great Western Railway) as is often stated, but were painted in British Standards: BS224 "Deep Bronze Green" also known as "Land Rover Deep Bronze Green LR001" with orange and black lining. From 1966 until withdrawal, Pullman Coaches were also painted in the reversal of the normal coach livery, with the blue and grey areas transposed. Much closer to what I was meaning (thanks. Like the Thameslink 700 "can't be bothered" livery. The attachments illustrate this. This livery suited these diesel hydraulic classes, and allowed the Western Region to once again show a degree of independence; it was not applied to any other diesel or electric classes (other than the Class 42/43 "Warships"). True. I don't think the red understripe would appear though, and there will still be calls from TfGM, WYCA TfWM, TfW, etc. How about that but the double arrow in red? [15], Originally scheduled for May 2022,[14] a shortlist consisting Birmingham, Crewe, Derby, Doncaster, Newcastle upon Tyne, and York was announced in July 2022,[16] using the following criteria: alignment with "levelling up" objectives; connected and easy to get to; opportunities for GBR; railway heritage and links to the network; value for money; and public support. Most of the coverage has focused on this. The Great British Railways Transition Team is developing a range of rail freight growth target options. Class 14s D9537 (in desert sand livery) and D9539 prepare a double-head a train on the Ribble Steam Railway. BRs own history says otherwise. With the publication of the Williams review and the announcement of the renationalization of British Passenger Rail, i thought i might help out anyone exited for new liveries or branding for trains. JavaScript is disabled. Dedicated station management teams will be created within regional divisions of GBR to manage stations and land. | Page 27 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. This livery was well received by enthusiasts but as the Class 56s only hauled freight, it was decided to extend the experiment to a passenger loco. I don't think there would ever be multiple logos for Great British Railways as you've alluded to - it would make it complicated for the end passenger. A number of sets of coaching stock and a handful of locomotives received the livery, as well as most new multiple units and some existing ones. The iconic London and North Eastern Railway brand - better known as LNER - looks set to be withdrawn again. The final decision was to be made later in 2022,[16] but the result has not been announced as of February 2023. Goodbye. I'm not aware - what are TfW doing? Great Central Railway {} Sample: 002366: Great Eastern Railway {} Sample: 00a550: Great Northern Railway (Great Britain) {{GNGE colour}} Sample: 00645b: Great Northern and Great Eastern Joint Railway {{GWGC colour}} Sample: 47640f: Great Western and Great Central Joint Railway {} Sample: 964b00: Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway The easiest way to guarantee readibility at night would be to use retroreflective coatings, like those used on road signs. This grey panel finished just short of the end of the coach leaving a small amount of Rail Blue which then continued round onto the end of the coach. BR's first standard locomotive liveries, adopted from 1949 onwards. I suspect not many. And other European countries cope with DB trains in France, SNCF trains in Germany etc. That's a different argument (which I disagee with but that's not for this thread). A livery, similar to ScotRail but with the upper dark grey bodyside replaced with a dark blue, was created. Differences should merely be factual, not corporate. GBR will absorb Network Rail, although overall strategic direction on infrastructure investment and fares strategy will remain with government. The WilliamsShapps plan recommended that there will be a single, unifying brand for railways, and it is expected that this will be a gradual rebranding over time. In terms of changing the background colour - I was going to go with a navy blue, but then it wouldn't integrate with any part of the design system I had in my head, so I opted not to. The 1948 trials brought LMS Class 5s, and GWR Kings and Castles in lined light green and lined blue, with incorrect suggestions that two different blues were used. They were repainted into blue/grey in the early 1970s. Erm are you sure about that? British Railways (BR), which from 1965 traded as British Rail, was a state-owned company that operated most of the overground rail transport in Great Britain from 1948 to 1997. There was a return of some regional schemes: the Western Region turned out some Mk1 sets for named expresses in chocolate/cream, similar to that used by the GWR before nationalisation. Copyright 2023 Great British Railways Transition Team. [3] Goods (freight) services are operated by a number of companies, the descendants of those created during the 1990s privatisation. GBR is currently running a competition to find a town or city outside London to host its headquarters. It's only as complicated as you want it to be. From 1974, some DMU sets, after being refurbished, were painted white with a wide blue band under the windows and full yellow ends. OK, it's not a big change, but Germany tends to do rebrandings very infrequently. We use cookies. If only we were to see a coherent joined up livery scheme to run nationwide like the picture above , however I rather suspect this will not be the case. I imagine the LNER and GWR branding will be around the longest, as its allready kind of govt created and most in line with DfT standards. How many people list how attractive a train is when you ask them why they decided to go by car or train? In 1977 two Class 47 locomotives, 47163 and 47164, were painted by Stratford TMD with silver roofs and other decorations including a full body height Union Flag on each side, in celebration of Queen Elizabeth II's silver jubilee. Swiss rail. In 1964, as part of a plan to develop a new corporate image for British Railways, a number of experiments were tried; Discussions on the livery for British Railways coaching stock in 1948 eventually settled on a network-wide two-tone livery of crimson and cream for corridor coaches, with all-over crimson being used for local, non-corridor stock. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I personally do not think there should be a standard livery across the network on the grounds that regional identity would be lost. At the formation of British Railways on 1 January 1948, early diesel and electric locos and the gas turbine locomotives 18000 and 18100 were already painted black with aluminium trim, but by the late 1950s this had been superseded by the same shade of green that was used on express passenger steam locomotives, although some locomotives were painted in a two-tone Brunswick and Sherwood green livery, and Southern Region electric locomotives were painted a light shade of malachite green. Class 35 'Hymek' D7017 restored to 1960's green & lime livery. Consisting of three shades of grey and thus known as "triple grey Railfreight", the livery included logos on the sides and cabs of locomotives indicating which sector they belonged to. [7], Under Network Rail, all stations are formally in public hands since 2014, but only 20 (mainly large termini and central stations) are managed directly by it. And it that light it is intriguing that Ministers have. It's good work (and the previous set). Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; And although BR did changes, it was still the same basic livery really. Find out more Contact us Freedom of Information Jobs at GBRTT Media Sign up for GBRTT News Privacy and GDPR Terms and conditions The UK, Britain, Great Britain, The British Isles, England - what's the difference? [5][6], The new GBR organisation was proposed under the WilliamsShapps Rail Review,[7] which was published as a white paper on 20 May 2021. It highlighted different ways in which Westminster could invest in Britain's strategic transport network to better-integrate the nation. On the face of it, this is primarily a reorganisation of the franchise system in England control over passenger franchises in Scotland and Wales is, alas, devolved. This was later modified for locomotives allocated to the Civil Engineer's department to include a yellow stripe on the upper bodyside, the resulting livery being known as "Dutch" due to its similarity to the corporate colours of the Nederlandse Spoorwegen.[18]. Instead, I just added an icon next to the full text and removed it from the main station name. Historic fact is that Roman Britain was England & Wales and the name Great Britain was adopted once Scotland joined, even though today we may refer of GB as just Britain. Launched as the London & South East Sector "Express Livery" this was a short-lived scheme which appeared on a limited amount of units and routes before the advent of Network SouthEast's "toothpaste" red white and blue striped livery. I'm unsure about the livery as such, but if Great British Railways is taken forward, I'd expect 'GBR' to feature. Wrap yourself up in the flag and sing rule Brittania. [2] It was a dark, greyish blue tone which hid the effects of dirt well. Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread . Bland, cheap, unimaginative. A corporate livery was created for major express services in Scotland, which effectively consisted of the InterCity livery with the red stripe replaced by a light blue one. British Railways was formed in 1948, it was divided into geographical regions loosely based on the pre-war Big Four company areas, Scotland became a region on its own and the former LNER area was divided into North Eastern and Eastern Regions. The pleasure's all mine. Upon sectorisation, most secondary passenger routes which did not fall under the InterCity or Network SouthEast banner were re-designated as Regional Railways (originally Provincial). The British Railway official livery for meat & fish vans (and other stock which normally travelled in passenger trains) was originally crimson with yellow lettering. The x-height of the lower-case lettering should be equal to the height of the horizontal arms in the symbol, so that the row of text appears to align with them. If it was, that format would not be used by: If you need any proof, they've also just done the same with 'Great British Nuclear'. The Double Arrow is used for stations on maps, so that's really a no-brainer frankly. I tried going with the National Rail icon in the right hand side, but it was too small and nobody would notice it. In May 2022, the Government announced proposed legislation to modernise rail services and improve reliability for passengers. Question for the designers. With the publication of the Williams review and the announcement of the renationalization of British Passenger Rail, i thought i might help out anyone exited for new liveries or branding for trains.. It's the name of the island ffs. I said this on another thread, but this is definitely a more appropriate one. The system just looks like a disparate random mish mash of different organisations each running trains in their own way. One overarching brand, with sub brands sitting below it, for long distance services and regional brands all under the GBR moniker, much like we do today with Southern, South Eastern, South Western, Northern, etc. JavaScript is disabled. Standing on the sidelines of national politics and shouting is just what capital-U Unionism does now. But do you think Queen Nicola would accept trains branded as "Rail England" coming across the border? That's what happens when small-minded people look back on a classic that was before their time with a warped sense of populism. For example, the Midland Railway abolished Second-class on 1 st . Brunswick Green. The whole GBR thing is complicated as you have ScotRail and TfW already as separate brands that won't change, yet using "Rail England" or whatever is going to provoke outrage where services run by "English" operators go into Scotland and Wales (which rather ignores the same the other way round!). 3,609. thomalex said: One of the big ones is an end to endless rebranding of trains when the operator changes with various bit of old livery hanging about for a long time, never mind the cost and waste involved. It would appear that were going to be waiting a while even for the new logo, and that given the recent nature of the franchise liveries, that new liveries are a very long way off. Also, yes, the actual report has a typo, it really does say 'refect' instead of 'reflect'. In many ways having a 'Railway System' logo (the double arrow) for stations/journey planners but a different logo so people know the train is a 'big' intercity train or a 'small' stopping train is very helpful. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It will replace Network Rail as the operator of rail infrastructure across all of Great Britain (excluding some Valley Lines in Wales and some Merseyrail lines). TL:DR - if your a british collector, and you paint your own, PUT THE STRIPPER DOWN. Here is some variants of my original 'swallow inspired' design. RM CN0PKR - Britania 70000 in British Railways Livery at West Somerset Railway, Minehead, UK RM C1N4A7 - Totnes Littlehempston Station with Goods Vehicle in authentic 'British Railways' Livery, Totnes, Devon, England, United Kingdom RM ER5JCR - 46138 Royal Scot Class Steam Locomotive - British Railways L This idea often seems to pop its head up. [8] The review had been launched in September 2018 and was led by Keith Williams. All other brands (SE, Southern, Thameslink, SWR, GWR, TfW, Merseyrail, Overground, Crossrail, GA, c2c, Scotrail) remain as they are. (Something that ought to give die-hard advocates of splitting off the Scottish Conservatives pause for thought.) A later version added a red stripe along the lower edge of the locomotive bodyside. In response to this announcement, the Great British Railways Transition Team is looking at changes to support the development of the new industry structure, and considering ways in which the current system can be simplified and improved. Antrim Princess Sealink ferry underway in Larne with Sealink letters. In the days of signs being hand painted/stencilled on enamel I would agree, but it is so much easier to make stuff look good these days that there is really no excuse for this sort of thing. It is not necessary to have it on platform signs as if you don't know you are on the railway when you see them there probably isn't much hope for you. Likes Received: 1,930. A bit like this but without the fuzzy outline on the text and double arrow (caused by MS Paint's paint bucket tool): Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; I had a play around with this, and I agree, it looks. In 1957 this changed to maroon with yellow markings and in 1963 bauxite with white lettering was adopted. You are using an out of date browser. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; Im unsure about the livery as such, but if Great British Railways is taken forward, Id expect GBR to feature. Plus what is one persons opinion of a great livery will be different to the next. GBR will be modelled on the operations of Transport for London, which contracts services on systems such as London Overground. The rebranding of British Railways to British Rail on 1 January 1965 was coupled with the introduction of an entirely new national livery. Suffice to say, an actual English nationalist would not be passing controversial legislation to enable Westminster to spend even more money on Northern Ireland, as this Government is. A mock-up for the British Railways Mark 2 stock was displayed at the Design Centre, 28 Haymarket, London, (the showrooms of the Council of Industrial Design) in 1964. The devolved administrations, the combined authorities, and the Greater London Authority will continue to exercise their current powers, such as setting fares and awarding contracts, and will remain democratically accountable for this. Then why was the old version called British Railways, not Great British Railways, and why the change now for the new version if British Railways worked . Apple Green. Due to the small number of units repainted it was common to see trains with two or more units in different liveries. Id like GN non-Moorgate stuff to join Greater Anglia, as they dont fit in LNER imo. Great Britain (or just Britain) is the mainland of England, Scotland and Wales. No.47373 in revised Railfreight "red stripe" livery. I'm working on building a GBR brand from the ground up for the next few days (my calendar is completely empty), starting with a logo. Sadly cream on modern stock looks quite bad, or I suspect one incarnation of GWR might have tried it white might work ok instead. Despite the InterCity brand having been introduced in 1966, in 1985 the word 'Executive' was dropped and the livery was applied to all coaches and many locomotives used on InterCity services. The British Rail Class 31 diesel locomotives, also known as the Brush Type 2 and previously as Class 30, were built by Brush Traction from 1957-62. For me, it's time to sign off from the Great Western Railway Line. Other examples are available Once they'd ditched single colour liveries, they didn't really do anything that wasn't ", One can only hope for a Sectorised return to NSE. the report stated that there would be some update to the double arrow, though not what that update would be. Anyone got a suggestion for the government's latest bright idea today along the same lines, '. The BR Saint & TPO Livery Pack adds additional liveries to the GWR Saint & TPO add-on, enabling you to recreate realistic travelling post office operations in the British Railway era. The 25 kV electric locomotives were painted from new in a striking shade of bright blue which was known as "Electric Blue". From 1956 maroon (similar to crimson lake) was adopted as the standard colour for coaching stock, with corridor coaches lined and non-corridor plain initially: later on all stock was lined. 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