Thanks for the comment. I should have asked them if they had ever run into any pagan named Herman . . Thanks for your comment . Everywhere a pagan pagan . I got JUG in high school - Jesuits a few times. It was called Adopt-A-Pagan-Baby. His parents cant now change the little pagans name , right ? Through Baptism we are freed from sin and reborn as sons of God; we become I went to Catholic grade school at St. Amelias for 8 years. Despite its apparent condescending tone at times, it instilled a radical sense of urgency in children that we are responsible for one another.. Maybe they had sales during the year at times. except the last. Well I am hurt that you would think I would steal your money to Buy and Name more pagan babies. Or for the poor, underprivileged kids in the USA? In accepting his medallion, Cardinal McCarrick summed up the missionary spirit. monetization of National Catholic Register RSS feeds is strictly prohibited. Except in the case of fourth grade, 1964, just after the Beatles hit America on Sullivan. Your email address will not be published. So it had to be pretty official, like our nun just couldnt pull a certificate out of her drawer and fill in the name.no, I think that it had to be signed by the big Catholic mucky-mucks. I specifically remember this from eighth grade in 1960. After about a year it didnt seem to grow as fast but I put it down to my own spending habits. In college, I was given the opportunity to work for a month at a Franciscan mission in Mexico. Acts 2:38, 22:16, Rom. To learn more, Father Andrew Small, a Missionary Oblate of Mary Immaculate and National Director of the Pontifical Mission Societies talks about Missio on the Catholic Connection (right after the news). the men39s shelter charlotte boro compatible aio; class b plus rv for sale by owner near alabama naughty little girls sex; korean sauna near me burlington county times obituaries today; porno angelina joli Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? This is my question , said little Charlie Bloomquist to the salesman , If I wanted that bike , why wouldnt I go get a job and save my money until I could buy a bike . What was written on the boxes? Here is sister Mary So-and-So in the plane about to fly off to baptize the pagans . When you get to heaven have it in your pocket . Ransom and Baptism? The Irish nuns in their full habits immediately looked around at the teachers as if to say , Arent you teaching these children anything ? Gina Cascone grew up in central New Jersey and is the author of Pagan Babies, Mother's Little Helper, and coauthor of twenty-six books for children. The concept, End of March we usually plant or seed our wishes for the year. In the book, Pope Francis also addresses corruption at the Vatican, abuses committed by members of the Church, the COVID-19 pandemic, Russias invasion of Ukraine, among other topics. an Irish name?" But, ours were JMJD, because were had to give accolades to St. Dominic. The missionary spirit was evident as Pontifical Mission Societies honored three people at the gala. American Women Quarters 2023 Rolls and Bags - Bessie Coleman MULTI (D) (P) (S) $40.00 - $60.00 Shop Now 22EH American Eagle 2022 One Ounce Gold Uncirculated Coin West Point (W) $2,670.00 Add to Bag 17XA American Liberty One Ounce 225th Anniversary Gold Coin West Point (W) $2,765.00 Add to Bag Coin Sets In most classrooms to encourage donations, the nuns pitted the boys against the girls. Happy to know I am still sane. Commonweal's latest, delivered twice weekly. Gaming. My parents and the good (well mostly good) sisters tried the best they could based on their beliefs. I hope my Pagan Baby, Elizabeth Cecilia, is alive and well. I have often wondered whatever happened to my pagan baby Beverly Anne. I always thought it was amazing that I could have this baby and name her and feed her forever! My allowance was 25 cents a week . Premium Powerups . Along the way, in all the villages we passed through, there were people who were full of joy to see young people. Charlie waited for an adequate answer . . He chose Herman . Posted Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:53 am PT | Updated Fri, May 25, 2012 at 5:40 pm PT. I feel the same way as you do. This was great to read. Your email address will not be published. Thanks for your input . Each time I hope to combine for them the Holy Childhoods call of responsibility with the lessons I learned in Guaymas: the difference between pity and solidarity, the complexity of the global structures that create poverty and need, and the smallness of our efforts at making a difference. When five dollars was collected the box would go.somewhere ..and a new box would be folded out by the teacher . Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for Pagan Babies at Amazon.com. So, does anybody remember the plastic prizes (not for pagan baby collections). Oh my, what a great story. And most students did sacrifice that 5-cent candy money for the cause of bringing the word of god to the uneducated families somewhere in the world that the missionaries, usually Maryknolls stil active in missionary work today were working to convert the pagans usually Africa, in my day (probably deepest, darkest Africa). Read 283 reviews from the world's largest community for readers. Contrary to popular belief, the United States fails to live up to its promised values of freedom and fairness. NEW YORK - They were called "pagan babies," an appellation that would never be used today. ). He was a bartender later in life , at least for awhile . Oh, yes, I remember raising money to save pagan babies. Pagan Babies was a missionary effort by definition it took place in other countries where the Catholic Church was trying to make inroads. Their adopted Pagan Babies were then given the Sacrament of Baptism. Might make a nice story . Her salvation was purchased for $5 at Holy Name of Jesus School in Fishtown, Philadelphia, PA. Has anyone else heard this phrase before, and if so, do you remember what it . He stood right in the middle of the group . - Nancy K. Never heard the term. We all nodded and agreed. She went to Catholic school too, and I dont know if they had pagan babies then, but I bet they did. One of my fellow employees is reading a book called Pagan Babies. I too went to Catholic School in CA, and we definitely collected money for the Pagan babies. The part of your story that really rang true was the fierce competition between either the girls & boys in the same classroom, or amongst each entire class in the same grade (e.g. Regardless of whether pagan babies have become personal, we should still pray for and support the spread of the Catholic faith in foreign lands and in our own. Fierce competition existed between some of the nuns as to whose class had the most pagan babies. The salesman had charts and pictures and a poster for every classroom of the glorious prizes . Sure would love to hear from anyone that remembers. Seems like the boxes looked like animal crackers boxes . Use a knife, horseshoe, or other piece of iron. To get the bike we have to sell nine million thirty six thousand three hundred and eight candy bars .. Pagan Babies is classic crime fiction from the master of suspense, New York Times bestselling author Elmore Leonard. Your class picked out a name for the child, and the Catholic church baptized the baby with that name into the Catholic faith. "I named my Pagan Baby Patrick. Thanks for a trip down memory lane and validating my recollection. Five bucks sure went far in 1958! I remember Green Stamps . I told that I learned math through confessionit had been two weeks since my last confession, I was mean to my brothers every day, so that was fourteen times, I disobeyed my parents almost every day, so that was about ten times, etc., etc. I still have the ransom certificate to prove it. Wowi do remember that now that you mention it. But Father Small, national director of the Pontifical Mission Societies in the United States, wasnt apologizing for the old adoption program in which children in Catholic schools would save their pennies. Dell Publishing, $24.95 (272pp) ISBN 978--385-33392-4 The opening paragraph depicts a corner of hell on earth: a church in Rwanda after the recent. A set or two of golf clubs may have been in there . Its to raise money for the school , the salesman countered . The money collected in the United States went to help feed, clothe and educate them. But, in fact, the entire program was rooted in a sense of solidarity and charity in the broadest understanding of the word. You must have JavaScript enabled to use this form. Lets never forget that one day we will account for how we helped others. Hilarious ! Take a look and see why Im so excited about this app and will be promoting it every chance I get. Pictures of Cherub-faced Indian, African, and Asian babies graced small cardboard collection boxes given to each child. Glad that I could kick up some dust . Charlie was in my class . With respect to children who have died without Baptism, the liturgy of the Church invites us to trust in Gods mercy and to pray for their salvation. (CCC 1283). Father Andrew Small, O.M.I., national director of the Pontifical Mission Societies and host of the evening, welcomes the archbishop. Ah , maybe it taught us some basic values , anyway ( or maybe it screwed us up so badly that we dont even realize how much ) . I could fold bandages and scrub floors in the dispensario, change diapers and scrub floors in the orphanage, wash vestments and scrub floors in the churchyou can see the pattern. adoption pledge. Cover Reveal for My Road Trip Cowboy Romance! THANK YOU for truly capturing a historical phenomenon! It barely rings a bell hearing something about pagan babies. a Pagan Baby but lost touch. Enjoyed reading all of your comments about Pagan Babies. On the other hand, the central charitable action of my generationsaving and naming pagan babieswas clearly a fiction (I mourn those African Karens), one that reinforced my American sense of exceptionalism and arrogance. Sometimes disabilities don't fall along "guidelines" and some people just need a little extra help. We would use the proceeds to buy pagan babies. . Bury it beneath your front step or porch during a full moon. I found I really did not have many skills to offer. It didnt glow , but she was in a sort of a case shaped like a bullet with two doors that could close her in . I keep asking her where MY money was! I went to Marymount Jr. School (on Sunset) and we were all sent home to canvas the neighborhood in Brentwood for heavens sake, to sell pagan babies! - Karyn D. My first lessons in social justice came through saving pagan babies. My vocation has been in education, and in the thirty-plus years since my summer in Mexico I have accompanied students on many short sojourns to the front lines in Tijuana, Nicaragua, El Salvador, East Los Angeles, New Orleans. - Mary A. kids were allowed to give their baby a Christian name. in the classroom to see who had the most babies. Thanks for the memories of the JMJ on top of the paper yes right in the middle. When the class received the certificate the class just stoppedto think that our class really had another Pagan Baby! When they reached $5, they then ransomed a child overseas, got a certificate and the right to name the child. My dad was in the Navy out in the Pacific in WWII . Thanks for checking out my blog about my fathers WWII service on the PT boats. Reminiscing about St. Amelias brings back many other memories. Usually an ice cream party, it seems. I attended Dominican High School (1966 to 1970) and actually it was in those years that I started my wayward path. Remembering a Different A-to-Z Challenge | No Facilities. Theres the priority. Thanks for the comment . PJ. If they're actually disabled, they can file the application with the city to get a handicap spot installed. It really didnt have anything to do with Jesus, per se. Philadelphia 76ers Premier League UFC. The idea was to collect money from students , nickels and dimes , for charity . I suspect nowhere . It may speed things up . Once some missionary priest visited and told us how the communist Chinese forced chop sticks into the ears of missionary priests there. - Ann C. Id give my expected nickel or dime each week . I think the whole pagan babies thing was to give us something concrete to hold onto, plus those certificates that we got and plus, of course, naming rights all in the name of raising money for the Churchs missionary work. (After Vatican II beanies were no longer necessary.) ETA: and then theres this blog from someone who is completely unapologetic about their participation in the program: http://asksistermarymartha.blogspot.com/2006/08/announcing-pagan-baby-reunion.html. Being a Jewish kid born and raised in South Philadelphia, I never heard about Pagan Babies until I married my Catholic Bride. I dont think he really believed me. We did that too. In Scotland, around 1966 or so, there was something similar in primary school (which one attends from age approx 5 to approx 12, and this school was not R.C. Despite its apparent condescending tone at times, it instilled a radical sense of urgency in children that we are responsible for one another.. So how many pagan babies did you sell in Brentwood ? I think it has something to do with the "Poor starving babies overseas" that people send money to when they donate at Church, but I'm not sure. . Other Brookliners Remember Adopting I had my little yellow UNICEF box, and they asked if it was for the Pagan Babies. Good luck. Good question , though , about where all the money went . Kind of a weird experience when we look back on it , eh ? The Church doesnt have a mission. Technically, Jews could not be pagan, because they believe in the same monotheistic god Catholics do/did. You stir up a lot of old memories for me , too . Copyright 2023 EWTN News, Inc. All rights reserved. Catholic mom and grandparents here. http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1202140.htm, http://asksistermarymartha.blogspot.com/2006/08/announcing-pagan-baby-reunion.html. A Philadelphia punk band formed in 1986. we got prizes if we gave X amount, but I never got a prize. More and more babies are not getting baptized or raised in the faith. Pagan ,pagan, pagan . They took me down to Carmel Hall when I was around 10 or 11 and had me volunteer with the nuns. Plot summary. I believe it helped me get through this crazy life :-)) Some became doctors and lawyers and schoolteachers and others became lay catechists, sisters and priests, operating clinics and schools, colleges and seminaries, Father Small explained, and let me tell you something they need your help today as much as they needed it 30 and 40 years ago.. I think there were religious pix on the stamps. No , only two thousand fifty , countered the salesman . Simone Weil went into the factory to find out more about the social conditions of the modern worker in capitalism. Renew or manage your subscription here. Without her mothers knowledge ! Marymount ? Arlington Catholic Herald200 N. Glebe Rd.Suite 615Arlington, VA 22203703-841-2590800-377-0511, Website Design and Development by New Target, Funeral and public viewing set for murdered Bishop David OConnell, Catholics, are you going to confession? Im still not so sure . Steve Stahley. Thanks . now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body, but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ" (1 Pet. My romantic notions of missionary work got a dose of reality that summer. Always when he asked his question , no matter what the occasion , he seemed to be right smack dab in the middle of the group . I dont believe that UNICEF worries about saving souls. . Each was presented with a medallion featuring a representation of the Papal Keys. I ended up with about five babies!" is the gateway to life in the Spirit, and the door which gives access to the other Who could choose the most ridiculous name ? When I was in the fifth or sixth grade, a neighbor who was my age, took 12 books of S & H Green Stamps ( remember those ) and contributed them to the pagan babies program. Students gave their allowances to save Yesit must have been everywhere even Deer Lodge, Montana where I went to Catholic School. Bonus question: Did children in Europe collect coins for the pagan babies? If memory serves, it shows a black child being led by a (white) boy and girl towards a (white) Jesus, while two (white*) nuns look on approvingly. Show. I still suspect the money collected ( probably in actuality just chicken-feed ? ) Cary Cox stole a five dollar bill from his mothers purse when we were in fourth grade so that Cary could pick the name of the next pagan baby himself . Remember what he said? Band Name!! We collected money (I think) for UNICEF but we didnt get to name anyone. Or a beer. Or for the poor, underprivileged kids in the USA? . Catholics practice infant baptism because we take care of our childrens basic needs and what is more important than filling them with the Holy Spirit? I know its not a politically correct term, but babies are not getting baptized or raised in the faith. How great ! I may have turned into a pagan . Sports. Design by. As an incentive for our fundraising, when we raised $5 we were allowed to give a Christian name to a pagan baby. Seriously has anyone ever ran into a pagan baby named Herman or Mary or any other name?? You missed the naming and the fold-out box ! The bookstore is receiving pro bono legal services from ADF for the lawsuit. The one boys name that sticks in my head is Zachary. I found a bunch of them in my moms cedar chest she saved all of them! When the principal had signed on to a candy sale fundraising scheme because the promotion companys salesman gave him a stereo system as a gift to grease the wheels , the salesman spoke to the students for a few minutes at the morning assembly . Christianity is significantly losing members. But I dont remember her name." As a first grade student at St.Aloysius in Wilkes-Barre, PA circa 1969, pagan babies were part of our extreme Catholic instruction. Coins. But how ? Sign-up for E-NewsletterGet Register Updates sent daily or weeklyto your inbox. Hello Mike. I am not the age youre looking for, though, because I am > 50. I had one certificate for In three years, we bought sixthree boys and three girls. My mother thought that those nuns were as close to God as we would ever get on earth. Long time ago . And finally they finished . And in pagan lands, there are pagan babies. But I assured her that my Karen went straight to heavenMonsignor had said so and celebrated a Mass of the angels in white vestments rather than the usual funeral Mass in her honor. It took $10.00 to save a baby. Pagan Babies: and Other Catholic Memories. Remember it like it was yesterday. Maybe the program was intended , at least partially , to teach us generosity . Jump forward to 1980 . Adopt A Pagan Baby - 1959. Thanks for commenting! Such a mitzvah. talking about!" If you register with MISSIO by noon February 2, 2017, youll be entered for a chance to join the Pontifical Mission Societies on their pilgrimage to Rome in May 2017, and an audience with Pope Francis. Not many hands went up. There was something he needed to know . In closing, Bless the Maryknolls for the work they do in spreading the message of the Gospel! baptize it and give it the name we chose." Im sure none of that money got further than the downtown Archdiocese offices . I also remember something about a bridge The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for anonymous statistical purposes. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, 5.00 together, we got to buy and name a pagan baby. As a promotion, MISSIO is offering a chance to win a trip to Rome. BUY THIS BOOK Pagan Babies Elmore Leonard. grade 6A, 6B, 6C,). But Im a bit cynical . HELLO!!!!!!!! Yeah . JMJwow, totally forgot about that. Some of those Jesuits spoke directly to God . I don't know how this actually worked, and where the money really went, and if actual infants were handed over at some mission across the globe. Servant of God Mother Mary Lange and the Rich History of Black Catholic Religious Orders, Ukrainian Soldier Saved by Praying the Rosary, Priest Recounts, As We Forgive: Lenten Pastoral Note From Archbishop Samuel Aquila of Denver, A Lasting Trail of Light: The Witness of Pedro Ballester. Oh those Catholics had some great fund raising ideas. And then the certificate was put up above the chalkboard. "Thats what I remember. When I was young, in South Philadelphia, I have memories of collecting for Trees for Israel and the Allied Jewish Appeal. Please log in to comment by clicking here, Fordhams Greenhagen Finalist for National Scholar-Athlete Award. Same thing, just a more PC name. Im sure that Beverley Anne is fine and doing well . I attended St. Judes Grade School in Detroit, Michigan (1958 to 1966) and as I recall Pagan Babies were a big thing. . The Mary list is endless. To some of us Catholic school old-timers , pagan babies is a secret code , I guess, that gets us entry into some somewhat sardonic memories . Im not sure at this point for whom we were collecting I supposed it could have been UNICEF, or perhaps a Catholic charity. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for statistical purposes. The publics had no idea what we were talking about. I refused. "Baptism . NEW YORK They were called pagan babies, an appellation that would never be used today. sacraments. Not a word of a lie, early 70s, my sister had just gotten her photo of her wee black baby and was in my grannys house showing her it, one of my uncles looks at it, laughs, disappears upstairs and about half an hour later comes down with his scraps box, complete with several pictures of his black babies as collected when he was at school in the 50s, and there, in his pile, was the same baby (albeit in higher quality and printed on better paper). Now I am teaching fourth grade in a little Catholic school in Venice . ), and its name was even weirder - it was collect money to feed the Black babies. Learn how your comment data is processed. They were missionaries working somewhere in Africa . We were expected to sell subscriptions to our local Archdiocese newspaper when I went to elementary school. Went to Holy Name Grade School and when my friend was writing a book including some Catholic characters ( she is not Catholic), my fellow Holy Name and I gave her the pagan baby story to include, complete with only the rich kids got to name the baby since the rest of us did not have the means to save $5. What readers of her book talked about the most was either Is there really such a thing a pagan babies thats hilarious or Oh yes, I remember saving up during Lent to get to name a pagan baby. Thanks for the memories. Designed by Elegant Themes | Powered by WordPress. But , heres the thing : When the class had five dollars then that class got to name a pagan baby . By the way , I was born in SF . I was JUST telling my son about Pagan Babies when I was a little girl! Keep writingthis is good stuff! When Father Andrew Small, O.M.I., asked who remembered them at the inaugural World Mission Dinner May 2 at the Pierre Hotel in Manhattan, a few hands went up, mostly belonging to people with gray hair. Those memories come from a ways back . The teacher had a stack of them . A recent Pew Research Center study revealed that much of Christianity is significantly losing members. Pagan babies are certainly a unique experience us Catholic schoolkids share! Wow. The Pandemic Flu of 1918 and the COVID-19 Virus. David. When I gave my pennies to the missions, I could make a difference. At first, Sister tried to dissuade me from using Karen, as this was not a name on the published roster of saints. That $5.00 bought you naming rights. Thanks for your thoughtful comment . went into some general fund and wasnt really sent where we imagined that it was sent at the time . Kids', toddler, & baby clothes with Pennies For designs sold by independent artists. Those were the days , eh ? If theres a study done of it , I dont know . I also had a more personal reason for hitting the $5 markthe point at which you actually saved a baby and got naming rights. - Bill R. All of this went out the window in my belief system a few years later, when i began to understand political realities, had a more sophisticated notion of the universe and got very tired of having philosophical questions answered by Its a mystery. My favorite question was: If God can do anything, can he create a rock so heavy he himself cannot lift it? And I totally forgot about those Pagan babies and I thought no were not, then I asked her what is a pagan baby LOL Im still not quite sure either haha that was a great story. She said she named them after me. Im thinking, maybe, that I qualify as a pagan baby. - Bob H. Pagan baby naming makes good memories but was , I guess , conditioning in deception . Even though I later went on to become a Catholic priest (and later resigned and married), my robust suspicion that Catholicism did not have all the answers began to take root way back in my young Catholic boyhood. It is a few years after the genocide of the Tutsis by the Hutus.. Father Terry lives in Rwanda with his girlfriend Chantelle. I think the Catholic church needed better PR people back then. When they reached $5, they then ransomed a child overseas, got a certificate and the right to name the child being looked after by missionary sisters, brothers and priests abroad. Found this page while looking for something completely different, the unexpected joys of broken algorithmic search engines. Any questions ? Someone must have I remember those statues . They folded out . Well, when mama found out, she threw a fit. Christians have always believed that baptism is the gateway to life in the Spirit (vitae spiritualis ianua), and the door which gives access to the other sacraments. After all, it makes sense. I Googled it because of my conviction that it was an acronym and I just couldnt quite figure out what the E stood for. I cant guarantee your sanity , but Im happy to have helped . My imagination was also captured by the missionaries who came to speak to us at least once a year. - Kathy F. Does ANYONE know where the money did go? The poor pagan was already named Herman , right ? Aiden/ Aidan: Is of Celtic, which means "little fire." Alun: Alun means "harmony." Albus: This name means "white." Other notable guests included Cardinal Sean P. OMalley of Boston; Bishop Bejoy N. DCruze of Sylhet, Bangladesh; actor Andy Garcia, who stars in the upcoming film For Greater Glory; and Noel Campbell, who rode Amtrak for three days from the Coeur DAlene Indian Reservation in northwest Idaho to attend the event. Daley, who adopted "Michael" on February 24, 1959. "I remember donations that were not enough to "buy" a whole baby we're combined and the I went to a public school. Ask the deities of your pantheon to watch over the residents of your home. I wonder if the students understood anything through the Irish accents . The class received a certificate for each child they named. I also attended CCS and talk about the pagan babies all the time and the Lenten booklets where you saved dimes. It seemed like an honorable thing, he said. It was called Adopt-A-Pagan-Baby. Once the amount was reached, all the names were added to the blackboard and we voted. It sure wouldnt work on the savvy kids of today. All for $5. Our principal determined that Hush Puppies were insurance against black scuffmarks in halls and classrooms. EIN 27-4581132 Anyone else do this? Cant remember anything else about them except I would ask my parents, grandparents and neighbors to buy them. probably denoting how much money was collected. What did we kids know ! for missions in foreign lands. I also seem to recall mention of it in some dimly remembered memoir I read years ago about growing up catholic. Catholic Connection (right after the news). J. OBrien. Founded In Honolulu, Honolulu County, Hawaii, United States More than one artist goes by Pagan Babies 1. God Bless you. If you know tell me . Great mix of early US HC punk & the then emerging "Youth Crew" sound. Or maybe Pagan Babies: and Other Catholic Memories. I still think of those days and have many wonderful memories. Elementary I knew immediately what you were referring to even though we never went to church & I went to public school. The Biden administration has already announced it plans to fight any ruling against the FDAs approval of mifepristone. The thing was a brown color . That means that many of our grandbabies are pagan babies! Some Irish nuns were there one day to speak to the students . Imagine what they would cost now." I went to Marymount Jr. School in the 60s too. For whatever reason, we googled pagan baby today.My husband and I thought we were the only two people who remembered pagan babies!!!! Of course, the prizes helped. I have no idea what spurred me on this morning to do a search for Pagan Babies maybe I was trying to recall my first exposure to racism. Ill bet you remember those . Seems like 100 years ago , doesnt it ? With missionary nuns and pagan babies for starters. Really thought I was saving a baby!" These days, instead of collection boxes we can use apps. They spoke for an hour and I think that every sentence they uttered had the word pagan in it . Hooo, yes. I spent all my paper boy money." I dont know what state you were in at the time, but I have lived in California for the last 60 years.